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Old 06-01-2012, 06:45 AM
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Spin REALLY Vintage Webcor Reel To Reel Tape Recorder 210-1B

Saw this on ebay just now and had to have it. Not only is it in (cosmetically, at least) amazing condition for its obvious age, but it will make an awesome conversation piece! I love old stuff like this.

Anyone have the slightest idea what sort of tapes this thing uses? Looks like 5" or something along that size in this YouTube video. It also has a speaker built into the case, so if it actually powers up and runs, it would be fun to see how it sounds (sounds hilariously bad in the video).

This pics were posted by the seller, but I'll post my own when it arrives.
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Old 06-01-2012, 07:20 AM
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That was built right before they changed the name to Webcor in 1952 meaning that one is likely a '51 or '52 model. The sheet above says its takles 7" reels.

http://www.webster-chicago.com/210.htm

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Old 06-01-2012, 09:54 AM
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This looks like the first reel deck machine I had access to. I would still have it if the flood waters would not have damaged it so badly. Funny thing is I worked for Teac and now work on decks regularly and I found out my father
had worked at Webcor. He was a Design Engineer.
I think those are collector items and worthy of collecting if you have the room. Well for me it is back to the bench.
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Old 06-01-2012, 11:02 AM
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That was built right before they changed the name to Webcor in 1952 meaning that one is likely a '51 or '52 model. The sheet above says its takles 7" reels.

http://www.webster-chicago.com/210.htm

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'Preciate the info! Maybe I'll amuse myself by putting my 7" Pioneer reels on it...if the hub posts are the same.
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Old 06-01-2012, 05:18 PM
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I have several of those early Webcor tape recorders in my collection. with proper restoration (replacement of all the paper capacitors), those are really good performing mono units. the really neat thing is the fact that you can play or record both sides of the tape without having to physically turn the reels over.
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Old 06-02-2012, 02:44 PM
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Anyone have the slightest idea what sort of tapes this thing uses? Looks like 5" or something along that size in this YouTube video.
Up to 7" reels....used the ordinary 'red oxide' tapes of 60 years ago such as Scotch 111 or a reasonable facsimile thereof.

As for the input and output connectors....these are commonly called Jones connectors.

The input connector is wired as follows....

-- | | are (left to right) chassis ground, mike level input (4.7 megohm input impedance), line level input (which is in effect adding a one megohm resistor in series to the signal fed to the mike input to pad down the signal level).

The output connector: Small slot is signal, large slot is chassis ground.
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Old 06-02-2012, 03:53 PM
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Those old players are really cool, I have an old Wollensak 3000 tube machine. They are nothing but fun It uses a 5 " reel yo record on. When I first got it had a movie projector reel on it and I loaded some 8 track tape on it. Have fun with it. Piece of HISTORY.
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@ Jay Pemberton: Many thanks for the info!
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...you can play or record both sides of the tape without having to physically turn the reels over.
Say, that is cool!
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@ Larry N: I had no idea how heavy these things can be. I should have guessed simply based on the year it was made, but I was completely fooled by the photos---just looked tiny to me. But I just saw the shipping weight on the tracking info, and it's nearly 50 freakin' pounds!
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Old 06-02-2012, 07:29 PM
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Here is the Wollensak and your right it weighs a ton.
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Hey! Revere! That explains it! I have an old Revere Model 85 projector, and it weighs a bloody ton, too. Love the classic retro-future industrial design!
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Old 06-03-2012, 06:42 AM
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There was a VERY similar deck at my thrift awhile back. The magic eye is cool. Webcors show up regularly.
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Old 06-06-2012, 04:41 AM
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Not really a conundrum

So, I received my vintage 1951-52 Webcor 210-1B portable r2r recorder/player yesterday. While not in terrible shape cosmetically, it is (not surprisingly) filthy on the inside. Everything is coated in 60 years of dust and grease and oil and other lubricants which have all turned to sludge. There are a total of five tubes inside: one directly under the main assembly cover, and four lined up in a row underneath. Only one, that I can tell, is actually working. That being said, the sucker does actually fire up---an unexpected bonus: the Webcor logo is backlit! The engine turns over, the reels spin in both forward and backwards directions, but it sounds like an asthmatic riding a skateboard and that is not an exaggeration.

The amount of work (and money) it would take to get this thing up and running makes me shrug in apathy. The unit only cost me $50 (not including shipping), so I can't really see myself going to all the trouble to get this thing immaculate and fully functional.

I took this photo and only slightly doctored it. I think it looks amazing like this, and am sorely tempted to a) remove the cover plates and carrying case lid permanently, and b) mount it like this on the wall or on a custom-made shelf with lighting. I think it would make a great conversation piece.

Now my Pioneer RT-901 which is arriving today is another matter altogether. I am definitely going to get that baby up to spec.
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It's VERY RARE that that ancient stuff even approaches 100% out of the box. Most of them have been basement/attic dwellers for decades until a future generation cleans house! Most people that get these are collectors of the genre in every sense of the word...

As you say, the 901 is a different story! I got my 909 about 10 months ago it was a plug `n play, and, other than head and path cleaning, has been trouble-free! Regular exercise is a good thing- if you have more than 1 deck in your system, rotate them.
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Did the play switch knob just pull off? I can't get mine off. Yes i have the same model.My parents bought it new in 1952.

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So, I received my vintage 1951-52 Webcor 210-1B portable r2r recorder/player yesterday. While not in terrible shape cosmetically, it is (not surprisingly) filthy on the inside. Everything is coated in 60 years of dust and grease and oil and other lubricants which have all turned to sludge. There are a total of five tubes inside: one directly under the main assembly cover, and four lined up in a row underneath. Only one, that I can tell, is actually working. That being said, the sucker does actually fire up---an unexpected bonus: the Webcor logo is backlit! The engine turns over, the reels spin in both forward and backwards directions, but it sounds like an asthmatic riding a skateboard and that is not an exaggeration.

The amount of work (and money) it would take to get this thing up and running makes me shrug in apathy. The unit only cost me $50 (not including shipping), so I can't really see myself going to all the trouble to get this thing immaculate and fully functional.

I took this photo and only slightly doctored it. I think it looks amazing like this, and am sorely tempted to a) remove the cover plates and carrying case lid permanently, and b) mount it like this on the wall or on a custom-made shelf with lighting. I think it would make a great conversation piece.

Now my Pioneer RT-901 which is arriving today is another matter altogether. I am definitely going to get that baby up to spec.
Did the play switch knob just pull off? I can't get mine off. Yes i have the same model.My parents bought it new in 1952.
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Did the play switch knob just pull off? I can't get mine off. Yes i have the same model.My parents bought it new in 1952.
I have a similar model a few years newer. On mine the play / FF/ RW knob just pulls off. As I recall you have to use 2 hands, one hand on each of the "ears." the record button may fly across the room so be careful.
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I have a 210 as well., a 220V version.
The advert says 3 speeds, but mine is 2 speed only, unless they think fast wind is a 'speed' ?
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I have a similar model a few years newer. On mine the play / FF/ RW knob just pulls off. As I recall you have to use 2 hands, one hand on each of the "ears." the record button may fly across the room so be careful.
Thank's for the reply. I'll give it a try.
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