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Old 05-31-2009, 02:10 AM
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Turntable Gallery

If I was looking for a new deck.............part 1

For your delectation and perusal: the good, the bad and the fugly;
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Old 05-31-2009, 02:14 AM
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Pipedream # 33.3 - part 1, page 2 of 6

And some more.
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Old 05-31-2009, 02:16 AM
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Pipedream # 33.3 - part 1, page 3 of 6

Along comes another 10.
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Old 05-31-2009, 02:20 AM
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Pipedream # 33.3 - part 1, page 4 of 6

So on and so forth.
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Old 05-31-2009, 02:26 AM
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Pipedream # 33.3 - part 1, page 5 of 6

Nearly there...
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Old 05-31-2009, 02:36 AM
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Pipedream # 33.3 - part 1, page 6 of 6

Finished - how was it for you?

Like I said at the start of this thread this is idle speculation, a few too many(sic) of these decks are impractical, over engineered and aesthetically/agriculturally unpleasing.

Instead, think of the vinyl you could buy.

However, my favourites are the SME, the Brinkmann and the TW Acustic.
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Old 05-31-2009, 03:42 AM
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Those are beautifully crafted turntables! Had no idea so many different manufacturers of hi-end equipment are/were out there. Thanks for posting the t.t. (technical triumphs) ensemble.
Now, here's the practical side of me kicking in: Does the cost justify the sonic improvement? And what are the chances of me even finding the McIntosh at an estate sale?

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Old 05-31-2009, 05:56 AM
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Thank you for making me waste half of my morning drooling over these tables.

Seriously though... Very nice stuff.
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Old 05-31-2009, 07:25 AM
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Wow that's quite a gallery. I am personally not a fan of the modern art looking designs. A lot of them are very impressive though.
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Old 05-31-2009, 07:59 AM
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What are you like super rich Stuart? I wouldn't even bother looking at these myself because I know I'll never be able to afford getting one of these and looking will only make me unhappy.
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Old 05-31-2009, 08:41 AM
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Stuart, great photos! thks. I've been seriously looking at getting a Michell Gyrodec or Orb. Have you ever heard one of these? I've read good things about the Gyro/Orb with a Rega tonearm. They look great and at about 3k are quite reasonably price within the ranks of hard core tables, but I've yet to hear one in person.

Definitely not this year unless I sold some stuff like, the TeacX1000r and the CR7 (probably not gonna happen).

The thing I like about the Michell that is somewhat similar to my Pro Ject is that there's a logical upgrade path so you don't have to re-finance the house right away but rather just go completely broke over time
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Old 05-31-2009, 09:11 AM
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I find it very interesting how different designers/engineers approach the concept of what a turntable needs to do it's thing. Although I admire many of these tables I gravitate towards the simple in operation and in my eyes the more elegant design.
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How about one of these?

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Old 05-31-2009, 09:39 AM
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Thanks for your comments Nando y Juan Doe, I think, regarding cost, that the 80/20 equation applies here. Might even be 95/05 in some cases - certainly maximum outlay for miniscule returns - which only the lucky few can afford. Doubtless, there's a market for these superdecks.

Yes, it's encouraging on the one hand to see so many high end tables, precision fabricated with ingeniously engineered solutions, especially as vinyl, despite it's renaissance, is a niche product. On the other hand, they're well out of reach for most of us, myself included.

I could probably post images of another 200 decks without too much difficulty, really they're out there, not forgetting the state of the art models of yesteryear such as the Brinkmann Avance, Nakamichi TX-1000, Micro Seiki SX-8000, Audiolabor Konstant or Oxford Acoustics Crystal Reference. Classics like Denon, Empire, EMT, Garrard or Thorens, which are still sought after and usually command a premium.

In general, I suppose the more decks there are means that vinyl will be around that little bit longer, there should be a trickle down effect and the benefits that bestows on budget models is all good. I can appreciate the manufacturers craft even if the product remains aspirational. For an analogue and music lover this can only be a positive.

As Frank Lloyd Wright put it,"Give me the luxuries in life and I'll forego the necessities" tongue firmly in cheek.

Scott, I'm not remotely wealthy, although I will concede to liking the good things in life. Who doesn't.

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Old 05-31-2009, 10:23 AM
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Stuart, great photos! thks. I've been seriously looking at getting a Michell Gyrodec or Orb. Have you ever heard one of these? I've read good things about the Gyro/Orb with a Rega tonearm.

The thing I like about the Michell that is somewhat similar to my Pro Ject is that there's a logical upgrade path so you don't have to re-finance the house right away but rather just go completely broke over time
I haven't heard on Orbe or Gyrodec for that matter, very well respected tables from an established company.
Quarter of a century ago I had a Michell Focus One/Infinity Black Widow/Dynavector 10X combination that I loved.

More recently, I had 4 Michell Alecto Monoblock power amps in my system for a long time, lovely midrange and capable at the frequency extremes too.

Rega tonearm is still considered something of a bargain, although a used Zeta or Syrinx PU3 tonearm might give you that bit extra.

My advice; audition, audition, audition and see if the Michell is your thing, failing that, lots of alternatives around at the price.
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Most of them are one of a kind or limited runs because they are over-engineered "ultimate" turntables, yet there will always be another follow-on "ultimate" 'table. Still some of them are purty to look at and some of them are "excessive"..... Of course, like an accident on the side of the road, ya just HAVE to look ....
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I personally think that most of the modern turntables are a bit too gaudy, and prefer the 'traditional' look of say a Micro-Sieki BL91, Linn LP12, Garrard 301, Rek-O-Kut B12H, Technics SL1200, and the like.

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Micro-Seiki BL91:


Linn LP12:


Garrard 301:


Rek O Kut B12H:


and for looks ONLY, I am fond of the Garrard Lab80.


Now, that's not to say that I would not love to have any of the turntables in posts 1-6 in my system, but, I definitely would not like to look at them as much...

Some new turntables I would definitely love to have, like:

ProJect Xtension:


Rega P5:


This is gettin close to the edge of my personal taste, but, the Marantz TT15:
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"I personally think that most of the modern turntables are a bit too gaudy, and prefer the 'traditional' look of say a Micro-Sieki BL91, Linn LP12, Garrard 301, Rek-O-Kut B12H, Technics SL1200, and the like."




I can't argue there, very nice looking tables. I think that given the ratio of diminishing returns, looks count for more than we'd like to admit when selecting tables or any other gear for that matter.

I think the JA Michell's are lookers and not too "out there", but there is something to be said for the solid slab of hardwood minimalist/traditional look.

The only one I'm not thrilled with is the P5. It always makes me think Rega mounted it in a picture frame.
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Found this Micro Seiki DQ3 with 707 arm at very oddly advertised garage sale. So odd that when I returned two hours later it was still there for $25.
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In my experience some of the mega expensive tables are more audio jewelry than practical product.

They don't need to be super heavy and expensive to do the job. Almost like using a steam engine when a little electrical motor will do.

The finest tables I have heard were the sota, vpi and oracle.

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