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Old 09-09-2016, 12:26 PM
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Any owners of unrestored R to R that still work well?

How many of you own reel to reels that have not been restored, that you use often, that continue to operate well? Please be specific as to which brand and model.
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Old 09-09-2016, 12:32 PM
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Old 09-09-2016, 12:37 PM
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Old 09-09-2016, 12:51 PM
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Any well made unit should work well especially in the A class of Teac decks. Some rubber parts last 30-40 years and then some last 5. Who knows why that is.
The direct drive unit like the Pioneer RT707 would do well but then the caps need changing after about 30-35 years. I don't see how to get around it except to bear with the substandard filtering and wait for a failure. It might last 50 years but I don't think you should take the chance.

There are people who wait to do maintenance until the unit stops. I think that is not keeping a unit going in a proper way. Not that I am looking for more work. I just know how some of these units come in and how bad off they are compared to how they are when they go out.
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Old 09-09-2016, 12:53 PM
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Old 09-09-2016, 12:54 PM
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Old 09-09-2016, 01:29 PM
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Clarification......

Some smaller repairs, belt and capstan replacement , standard lube and maintenance work is fine....and I agree restoration is the ideal for longevity of these babies....I'm just curious about the true survivors out there....sort of the equivalent of the cars with 300,000 plus miles with normal routine maintenance and minor repairs , but without major repairs or a full ground- up restoration, like Tinman would normally do. I'm not recommending using a machine like this....but many of us do, and I am just curious as to how many of these are still out these and being used regularly (reminds me of Plash Philps on Sirius XM's 60's on Six....traveling the country in a Honda Civic with 330,000 miles to all 50 states this year...putting 4,000 miles on it in a week....recommended for everybody....nope.....but certainly a survivor car. Now which reel to reels are we using that just keep on going, by chance?
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Old 09-09-2016, 01:29 PM
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Old 09-09-2016, 01:54 PM
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All of mine are original except the pinch roller rubber and tach wheel rubber and belts.

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Old 09-09-2016, 02:10 PM
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My A-2300SD. Essentially 100% original with the exception of the mic inputs and headphone output which suffered from the plastic rotting.
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Old 09-09-2016, 02:40 PM
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My Otari MX-5050BIII, Technics RS-1500 and 1506, AKAI 747DBX (sold), Nagra III, Nargra SNST, and many others. I have found that total restorations are needed mostly on Studer/Revox gear, and now beginning on Technics, but that list grows with age of the other decks. EVENTUALLY, we will need to do this to ALL decks. EVENTUALLY.

My Technics decks are all still running, yes, but they ARE leaking! I'll get to them at some point, but I don't have to ship them anywhere. I also know they don't run as good as they should. Time to flip them for huge money on ebay JUST before they die!
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Old 09-09-2016, 02:56 PM
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Well, just for the record, my TEAC A-3340, purchased new in December 1974, is still working. Not used for a lot of years, but now being used again. Nothing at all ever done to it. Only problem, pinch roller needs a little manual help to engage, once it's engaged, runs fine.

It's probably working now better that I did at 42 years old?

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Old 09-09-2016, 03:27 PM
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Well, just for the record, my TEAC A-3340, purchased new in December 1974, is still working. Not used for a lot of years, but now being used again. Nothing at all ever done to it. Only problem, pinch roller needs a little manual help to engage, once it's engaged, runs fine.

It's probably working now better that I did at 42 years old?

Geoff
About that pinch roller engagement, I had the same problem on an A-3340S that I repaired recently. The issue in this case was a blown fuse responsible for the pinch roller solenoid's flash voltage; it's the one located closest to the front of the deck on the fuse board (rated 2.5A 250V), located on top of the right reel motor just under the upper back cover. It probably blew as a result of the pinch roller assembly lubrication becoming sticky, thus impeding the solenoid's motion. Relubricating this assembly's shaft and replacing the fuse fixed it... maybe your machine has a similar issue?

As for my own decks that are "unrestored" by this definition and working well, I'd say is the majority, including the following:
- Tascam 22-4
- Tascam 38
- Tascam 58
- Teac A-7030 (well, I did replace all of the electrolytics in the amplifier, but it still worked fine before that)
- Sony TC-250A
- Akai 4000DS
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Old 09-09-2016, 03:33 PM
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Teac X-2000R, only one part replaced so far and I am the original owner.

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Old 09-09-2016, 06:07 PM
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Old 09-09-2016, 06:28 PM
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I don't know how original my deck is, but suspect it's probably original as far as the caps etc go though it may well have had an oiling and new belt(s) and that is probably about it at one point, probably a decade or more ago. I got it from a friend of mine 5-8 years ago and have been using it at times for the past almost 2 years once I finally hooked it into my system.

It's a TEAC A-4300SX. I am suspecting the caps never replaced due to the fact that the reel table run motors look original with the install date of 1977 on them.

Still works great for the most part though I did discover last week that the take up tensioner was slightly bent, and did a slight adjustment of the height of the take up reel table to eliminate the tape catching on the back side flange of the original TEAC plastic take up reel in one spot and did oil the capstan motor from the front last year at some point, but that's been it, outside of a look-see inside to check things out briefly. I should go through and really scrutinize the caps for any leakage etc, if any.

The only other thing is the left channel gets a tad lower than the right and a wood wiping of the heads cures that. All I know is that whomever did work on it, did a decent enough job on it.
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Old 09-09-2016, 06:41 PM
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Otari MX5050BII -- Only a new pinch roller; replaced tape lifters due to wear, but oddly, heads seem fine... assume the lifters were made of softer stuff.
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Old 09-09-2016, 08:27 PM
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AKAI GX650D

Purchased new in 1977

Noisy transistor (2sc....) , pinch rollers and tape guides
replaced by AKAI (Edison NJ and Compton CA) in 1984 and 1985.

routine demag/cleaning

still runs like new.

This machine is used no less than 10 hrs weekly. Used with McIntosh C29, Soundcraftsmen A5002, Soundcraftsmen DC2215, JBL L112 speakers, and Dual CS741Q turntable with Shure V15 Type 5 (non MR).

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Old 09-09-2016, 11:49 PM
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My Teac X1000R has only had belt replacements and some greasing/oiling. Its never had a failure of any kind. I am the original owner having purchased it from the Kunsan AB Base Exchange back in 1982. I can't vouch for my RT-707 since I am not the original owner but I doubt anything has been done to it either.
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