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Old 02-13-2016, 10:40 PM
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An original "Black Band" case in what looks like excellent condition is a very nice find indeed! Congratulations.
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Old 11-13-2016, 10:16 PM
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My replica Jeln cabinet

This is my replica Jeln case. Many thanks to Mark J. for the black banded cabinet dimensions he provide me. My final poly finish is not great as I applied with a brush. The top space is waiting for a counter. In the middle there is the one blank space I hide the remote adapter, you can see the red LED light. The cabinet is in solid oak, finished with 2 layers of gunstock stain and polyurethane. I got this unit from Chuck as well.


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Old 11-13-2016, 10:30 PM
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looks good, glad the numbers worked out. Should be stable with that slight lean the Jeln comes with
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Old 11-14-2016, 04:12 AM
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Looks good!
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Old 11-17-2016, 07:09 PM
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Here is the wood cabinets for my Crown decks. Normally we make the cabinets same style as original ones (with key grooves) in order that we can put other Crown amp, pre, deck under or above:








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Old 11-17-2016, 07:52 PM
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Those cabinets look great. I like the vents done in wood and that console is something sweet.

I see I have not gotten folks to drop in and post up the Jeln cabinets, yet. So I stole some pics of the web, including ones from EMS and will post up info about them in a day or three. Need to give these two new posts with cabinets not Black Banded or Jeln to get some love before I finally put the Jeln info in this thread. (this of course gives EMS and others a chance to post before I do)
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Old 01-10-2017, 10:09 PM
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New owner of old Crown SX 724

I'm a new member here and on-going audiophile. A Crown 700 yes I got one!
Yeah it's old, somewhere from the very early 70's. I aquired it from a elderly retired doctor in the Rocky Mountains. It's in good shape but after 25+ yrs of storage it need an overhaul and tune up. I read here somehwere in this guy-Chuck (an expert with tape machines) , I should contact to get this peach back in the game. Can anyone help me with this? Thank you in advance.
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Old 01-11-2017, 05:33 AM
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Old 01-11-2017, 09:44 AM
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I messaged you Chuck's phone. I am sure Chuck can meet your expectation
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Old 01-11-2017, 11:26 AM
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Did they ever make one to fit the CX-744 with 4 channel electronics, the older transport with Track Sync module, but no counter (I'd like there to be room for it all though, and maybe another RU 2-4 space blank as well)? I have this very nice set up here for a client and it's naked with no cases, the client would like a mounting solution for it, either a nice wood type OEM case, or nice road case with removable lid and rear panel to install connections.

Once completed it may be available for purchase.
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Old 01-11-2017, 01:30 PM
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Crown has shown two cabinets, one in a brochure (Jeln cabinet) and one a photosteal from the web of a unit with plenty of space (black banded).




Appears to be 16 RU tall, 28" of Rack Mount Gear Space which appears to be 1 rack space shorter than the black banded cabinet.

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Old 01-11-2017, 07:58 PM
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A Crown 700 yes I got one!
Yeah it's old, somewhere from the very early 70's.

ALL Crown decks are old.

I have one of the last few built and it was built in 1976. They are all at least 40 years old!
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Old 01-12-2017, 11:48 AM
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Wow, you really have a collection of these. I notice many features on the crown decks that did not come into common use till at least a decade later. They just look so powerfully industrial and tough. but I suppose you have to maintain them just like any other 40 year old electronics. Good health to you!
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Old 01-12-2017, 09:27 PM
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They just look so powerfully industrial and tough. but I suppose you have to maintain them just like any other 40 year old electronics. Good health to you!
Although they are old, they were built Missionary Tough to handle the rigors of places without civilization. They held up well. They can be repaired in the field. Changing the belt is a simple remove, install on the back of the unit.

After all these years, a quick recap, what 20-40* of em on the electronics boards and power supply and typical mechanical going over of the transport and you have a machine ready to make flawless recording, to sound exceptional on playback and be the same Missionary Tough as it was designed.

* this is going to vary, SX, CX electronics and 2 or 4 channels involved.

The tube units I don't know well but Dave has done some rebuilds for us to follow on different parts of these machines.
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Old 01-16-2017, 06:34 AM
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Jeln cabs were also originally made in solid light colored natural oak.
The Walnut versions were usually (possibly exclusively) medium compressed particle board (MDF) with high quality walnut veneer surfaces.
The thinner vertical side panels (with black edges) were precision milled from a very hard Masonite type board, (all)
When they were still new, there were four glued-on fuzzy foot pads (thin black strips) along the bottom of the black side panels to protect polished furniture surfaces.
These velvet pads rarely survived intact at all four corners, not surprising considering that over 40 years have past since Jeln stuck them on there.
If I only knew how to post photos here from this iPhone, I could show the differences in end grain as is clearly visible on the front and rear faces of the side boards.
I really like these cabinets.
They are a brilliantly designed American classic.
Just don't stack heavy objects on the open span across the top, as they will deflect and bow permanently downward.
In addition to being beautifully made, they are ridiculously strong, even when stacked loaded with amps and other equipment, one over the other from floor to ceiling, I have proven this assertion by actually doing it. I've got 15 of these old cabinets .

Btw, there's a gentleman named Rod who may still be making exact replicas for people who ask.
I'd by happy to call him to see if he is interested in sharing his contact info here on this official thread, if anyone here wants to explore another option for owning one or more of these cabinets.
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Old 01-16-2017, 11:39 AM
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Jeln cabs were also originally made in solid light colored natural oak.

If I only knew how to post photos here from this iPhone, I could show the differences in end grain as is clearly visible on the front and rear faces of the side boards.

Just don't stack heavy objects on the open span across the top, as they will deflect and bow permanently downward.
In addition to being beautifully made, they are ridiculously strong, even when stacked loaded with amps and other equipment, one over the other from floor to ceiling, I have proven this assertion by actually doing it. I've got 15 of these old cabinets .
I'd like to see some of the Oak cabinets.

These cabinets were designed to be stacked as they dock with each other. The photo of the rear of one is showing how the feet extend down enough to keep the veneered top from contacting the raw bottom of the cabinet above and leaving a very thin gap between the cabinets from the side view. The 'feet' put the entire load of the gear on the feet of the unit below. Those hardboard sections hold the entire stack of gear in place with the support of the veneered panels. A nice way to do things.

Additionally, there are the 4 corner supports, screws that hold the rack ears and that Jeln sticker visible. The MDF of the build can also be seen in this pic.
All of my cabinets have a set of pads on the feet. Maybe not original but I have kept up with them having these pieces.
These do not appear to be difficult cabinets to build. But they are elegant in their simplicity, strength and beauty. Missionary Tough as expected from Crown.
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Old 01-17-2017, 12:03 PM
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My 2 D-150 Amps are in original Jeln cabinets.

My 2 DC-300 are in Rod's made replicas.

My SX-800 is in a original Jeln.

My CX-800 is in a original Studer cart.
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Old 01-18-2017, 11:46 AM
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Oak Jeln

I apologize for not coming up with better images of the oak enclosures, but these are buried in stacks of items that are not in use these days, and it would take a lot of effort to get them out from the bottom of these stacks.
You can see the bottom box with it's honest solid oak endgrain showing where the walnut boxes just above show veneer over MDF.
One oak box, someone chopped out some of the Masonite which I hope to repair.

I hope these images are correctly sized ... if not, might someone be kind enough to lend me pointers on how to post images here. Btw, This is my first attempt.
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Note: How do I attach a thumbnail (of a larger image) in a post to direct viewers to an isolated and singular image in Photobucket without granting access to the whole Photobucket library?
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Old 01-18-2017, 12:36 PM
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Make an album on photobucket and make it available to the public, make the others private. My albums have a lock next to the name except for the ones that are public.

If you need help moving out some of that old unused gear, I'd be willing to come up there and help dig out the oak and put the PL3 or PL4 pair along with the SL2 and FMthree in the Jeep for the ride home, getting it out of your way and making room for other gear. Just trying to help.

Thanks for the oak cabinet pics. Shouldn't be too hard to fill that gnawed out chunk on that cabinet and shoot it...satin black.
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