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Old 09-12-2017, 11:20 AM
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Otari MX-5050 BII 2

Hello;

I can pick up one of these Otari's for $300.00. That seems low to me considering. I have a Pioneer rt-1020H for 15 ips already, but if this is in as good of working condition as he says, is it worth the price? I will probably visit it this weekend - what would I check on this other than the obvious (functions,head, etc).

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Old 09-12-2017, 02:19 PM
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A working 5050 for 300 is a steal in my book !!!
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Old 09-12-2017, 04:18 PM
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Indeed.... Even just for parts.
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Old 09-13-2017, 11:13 AM
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A Otari MX-5050 BII 2 in good working order for $300 is a "go to the ATM right now" kind of deal.
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Old 09-13-2017, 01:57 PM
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Also its better then the Pioneer. Run dont walk,,or one of us will snatch it.

Let us know what happens
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Old 09-13-2017, 05:52 PM
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I will pick it up then. If it cleans up well, it could be a fine replacement for my pioneer RT-1020H, but I cannot see how it can beat it. My ears really like the pioneer. I am repairing a RT-707 too.

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Old 09-13-2017, 08:03 PM
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You may need to get xlr cables, and perhaps an external device to boost the input as well, for another approximate $100.
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Old 09-14-2017, 02:39 AM
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Hey Greg, im actually selling my rt2022 this week and the thing is amazing, i do like the sound, but compared to the ease of working on a Otari, thats where it wins the race. On top of direct drive which is also a gamechanger. As long as the heads are not grinded down like an old pair of shoes then its worth it at that price. As far as the ear thing, i get it. There is a different feel, maybe more detail in the pioneer, probably from a higher top end, and looks wise the Pioneer probably keeps the wife happiest on the cabinet, so i can see your deliemma, the main thing is to buy more. Im selling this rt2022 to help fund an Otari mtr10 and mx55. Its more about finding and learning about something new for me lately.
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Old 09-20-2017, 05:55 PM
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I passed on the Otari MX-5050 BII 2. The Mic inputs didn't work, and they claimed that it was a switch that caused the deck to not go to high speed, but 'they weren't sure'. Anyway, seemed like more trouble than my experience level. But if it was easy to fix, I perhaps should have talked down the price. It is still available though.

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Old 09-20-2017, 06:23 PM
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[QUOTE=GregPerugini;707469] It is still available though.

Where?

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Old 09-20-2017, 06:59 PM
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Words fail me....

I passed on a ferrari because the windshield wipers were stuck and the owner said it was just a switch.

WHERE is this deck?
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Old 09-20-2017, 08:06 PM
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Muncy, PA. Obviously words did not fail you, Tinman. Perhaps they should have. Hope you have a nice day.

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Old 09-20-2017, 10:27 PM
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seller mentions '...two speed, ceramic tape guides...' ??? Doesn't know what fell in his lap...
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Old 09-21-2017, 07:16 AM
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Yes, but only one speed works. That's the point.

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Old 09-21-2017, 07:37 AM
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[QUOTE=Tinman;

I passed on a ferrari because the windshield wipers were stuck and the owner said it was just a switch.


Yeah, like the guy wants a new car because the ashtrays are full in the one he's driving.
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Old 09-21-2017, 07:46 AM
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seller mentions '...two speed, ceramic tape guides...' ??? Doesn't know what fell in his lap...
Who knows, it could be full of 'Tape Project' up grades. This guy doesn't know these decks that well.

To me, for $300, I'd go for it. Even if you used it for parts. 'Might even find another and fix this one up.

I kind of wish I could get out to Pa., somehow.

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Old 09-21-2017, 10:07 AM
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Yes, but only one speed works. That's the point.

Greg
The switch is dirty.

This is being discussed every 3 days here. Dirty switches are the common fare on Otari decks causing this exact problem.

A can of deoxit is all that's required.
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Old 09-21-2017, 11:42 AM
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Wow, Tinman. You are so sure of your remote diagnosis.

I will concede perhaps that is the correct solution, but since you haven't laid eyes on it or taken it apart, you must concede that it may be something else.

Being a skeptic, I called up his son in Nashville (the original owner)

The fellow is selling it for his son - he texted me back. He 'had a few engineers look at it' but couldn't diagnose it. Hmmm. If it is a simple switch problem, I would think it would be blatantly obvious. But his engineers could be idiots.

So, perhaps you are right. In any event, sounds like it is worth the parts, and it appears that it is not a hard machine to work on and is well built. Are there parts available? If it is something more major, I don't want this to end up as a cash drain.

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Old 09-21-2017, 01:03 PM
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Well, yes I am! It COULD be something else, but it's VERY unlikely.


Engineers are NOT technicians. Most people get the 2 confused. I used to think so as well.
I know Engineers in the TV business that cannot change a fan in a piece of gear. They send it to me.
I really found this odd. But an Engineer knows workflow and how things interconnect, etc.
They do not know how to troubleshoot and repair electronics to component level.

Anyway....

You have only 80some posts.... so you probably didn't read the MANY otari posts on the capstan "issue" or the xlr pinout.
But if you search a bit, you will find that these are the typical and classic otari BII problems. So far, pretty straight forward to repair.

Also, keep in mind that most people today no longer KNOW how to troubleshoot and repair these decks. This is "old school" stuff.

I don't need to see the deck to tell you, based on the information given what's probably wrong with it, as someone asks the same question here about once a week.

These decks are extremely robust and have very few issues. But the one's they have, are very well known and repairable.

Also, since Otari uses a non-standard pinout on their XLR connectors, (easy to fix if needed) that may be the only reason the mike inputs "don't work".

They probably do.

And if you looked up ebay prices on even the most hammered, beaten up, broken and hopeless decks..... you would likely have just quietly bought it regardles of condition. I would have....

These are GREAT decks!

Go get the darn thing, let us guide you to fix it, and enjoy a fantastic machine.
But you WILL have to put some work into it.

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Old 09-21-2017, 01:23 PM
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Thank you for the informative post, Tinman.

I agree on all points. It seems like a gamble, but since these are common problems and they are fairly available parts, i am most likely being too cautious.

I am on these forums because of people like yourself with experience and guidance. Perhaps I will take the chance - you and others give me confidence that it might not be major fixes.

Greg
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