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Old 02-06-2010, 08:43 AM
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Default Interesting B215 factoid..B710 the same?

I thought I had an issue with one of my B215s, as I had noticed recordings had lower output than other decks that were recording the same thing at the same time, yet the meters were set close to the same levels. I was using SA tape, dolby C, and set the peaks at about +5. When I checked it on the bench I found something strange. With Type I and II tapes only, 0 db recording level in at 400 Hz, becomes +8 db indicated on the level meters at 18kHz. Yet when played back, all frequencies are at 0dB. I had contacted ANT and asked him about it, and he suggested it might be normal. I poured over the schematics, located the meter circuit, and sure enough there is a switch that when non-metal is selected, and in rec mode, the gain on the initial op-amp increases with frequency. Then I did the obvious thing, and tried the same thing on my other B215 and it was exactly the same. But since on that one I'd been primarily using Type IV, I never noticed it. I'm assuming Revox did this in order to allow about the same recording levels on the deck meters regardless of tape type chosen, but if there is a lot of high frequency content, then the EQ would show higher than the actual level to the head, and record lower to prevent saturation distortion. I guess they felt that metals could handle a lot more highs before that happens (which is true). I just wondered if the B710 does the same thing..anyone ever try it with test gear?
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Old 04-24-2010, 06:34 AM
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Hi Perry,

I just would like to confirm that peculiar behaviour of the Revox B-215 meters. Also Revox H-1 is the same and, according to the schematics, Studer A-721 too. I've looked at the schematics for Studer A710/ Revox B710 and it looks like there is no meters frequency response switching there. On B-215 it is very tricky - the switching occurs only when tape is moving, i.e. in the recording mode. If you pause the tape, or just look at the meters in a stop mode from the source - the frequency response is flat!

Well spotted, Perry, thanks!

Alex

P.S. - I have at the moment B710 in for a service. I'll have a look at its meter behaviour when I'll have a chance - just in case!
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Old 06-08-2010, 06:35 AM
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Hi,

This is interesting. My B&O Beocord 9000 does the same sort of thing. B&O engineers say on their service notes this is wanted and normal although a bit disconcerting!

Jacques
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