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Des-Lab
08-24-2008, 07:33 AM
Hello fellow tapers. It's Sunday and I thought I'd post this weeks update a little early. Here's what's going on with the site.

First is the ongoing issue of E-mail registration. I continue to see, at least several times a day, failed registration attempts. This is no doubt because many would-be members are still attempting to register using Yahoo, Gmail, or Hotmail e-mail addresses, despite me having blocked those domains now three weeks ago.

UPDATE: This policy has been repealed on a temporary conditional basis. See below.

It presents something of a moral quandary to me: On one hand, it pains me to see that many potential members fall by the wayside and not end up as active members. The fact that there is that much [growing] interest in TapeHeads is hard NOT to get excited about.

But then the other side of me says: "Look. I've posted the new requirements in three consecutive weekly updates. There is also a message at the top of every single forum also detailing this. If these people are either too lazy to read it and/or inattentive to follow that very simple directive, then that's probably someone I don't even want on the site in the first place." So it's not as though this is some obscure requirement that one needs to dig deep for. One would think that if you were trying to register here and couldn't, that the message at the top of every single forum containing the title "Joining TapeHeads.Net" might provide some sort of clue as to why. After all, the site does remain open to casual viewing to anyone who happens to visit the site.

ADMIN COMMENT: This part still concerns me. As prominently as I posted the prior messages and some people were apparently not seeing them.

I'm still pretty firm in my belief that I made the right choice. It keeps spammers and a lot of other potential troublemakers out.

Next issue on todays agenda is the new Polls And Votes forum. It's not a new forum per se, but rather, a re-name of an old one. It occupies the spot of the former Foamers Corner section. After doing some looking over the site, I came to realize that there was a lot of overlap between that board and the Gallery forum in that both are basically the place to show images, pictures, systems, etc. So I moved all of the contents of "Foamers" into The Gallery and then renamed that section.

"Polls And Votes" is the section of the site I have set aside for you to ask the "What's the best....and "what's your favorite...." types of questions that are so common on these types of websites. You can also create polls, take votes, etc. Ask away and have fun in there. The only thing I ask is that you please limit any surveys you post in there to just audio related. The poll functionality has been enabled on this site since Day 1. Just no one up until now has ever used it. Perhaps because maybe no one was sure on where or how to use that feature. So now you know.

And lastly is Site Donations. Although I am not actively seeking it nor demanding or insisting on it, anyone who would like to contribute to the site financially is certainly welcome to do so. By now many of you have probably noticed the icon link in the upper left hand side of the page above the forum directory. It goes straight to PayPal, which in turn is linked to the site. So if any of you enjoy the site and respect it enough to contribute (in any amount), it would of course be appreciated. Indeed, one person has made a $100 anonymous donation. I do not know who it is; the e-mail address it came from is not a match to any registered user in the member directory. I did send an e-mail back thanking him for the donation. And to please identify himself so that he can receive proper credit. However, if he wishes to remain anonymous, that's certainly his right too. But if you are reading this, please be assured that it was noticed and very much appreciated.

I guess that's about it for this week. Enjoy yourselves and we'll see you in the forums. Take care and thank you as always.

Matt "Des-Lab"

Sunday, August 24 2008


UPDATE: After much discussion both on and off the main boards, I will enact a compromise. I have, at least for now, lifted the bans on Yahoo, GMail, and Hotmail domains for site registration. However, the tradeoff is that until further notice, all memberships must be approved by me first. You will NOT be able to post immediately after completing registration. I will examine each individual application, ping it, and probably send a further verification e-mail that must be answered in order for your membership to be approved and activated.

This is a new site and I am open to suggestions. This is my compromise for now. However, as owner of the site, I do reserve the right to either maintain restricted membership, reinstate all domain blocks, or remove them as I see fit. I need to find the delicate balance of allowing anyone who wants access to the site without compromising it and allowing others to spam it.

Let's see how this goes.

Scorpion8
08-24-2008, 07:46 AM
First is the ongoing issue of E-mail registration. I continue to see, at least several times a day, failed registration attempts. This is no doubt because many would-be members are still attempting to register using Yahoo, Gmail, or Hotmail e-mail addresses, despite me having blocked those domains now three weeks ago.

I can understand this, although there are a lot of people out there who only use these free systems. Is there a way in vBulletin to create a probational account that a user can register and then has (as an example) 2 weeks to edit their details with a real domain e-mail account? It is a shame to turn away good users.

Des-Lab
08-24-2008, 08:00 AM
Not that I'm aware of. But then keep in mind that VBulletin is a highly advanced and sometimes complex system to manage. So it *might* be there and I just haven't figured it out. The closest thing to what you are asking that I am aware of is moderating users. That is...to allow anyone to join up. But do not let them become active until I review their account and then give it either the thumbs up or down. I believe this is what LaLa land (http://www.audiokarma.org) does: You sign up. And then wait while your account goes into a moderator queue pending activation.

I suppose I could do that. But oddly enough. Only a very small handful of people have taken the trouble to inquire about this through the site feedback (http://www.tapeheads.net/sendmessage.php)link.

And as for some people using "only" free accounts? I find that hard to believe. Don't they have to buy their Internet access from someone-such as AOL or Time Warner? Don't all of those have e-mail accounts they can use?

The folks who rely solely on "free" E-mail access-such as at a coffee house or Internet café-are also the ones most likely to be spammers or otherwise trouble-because of the ease with which they can do hit-and-run damage.

Rat44
08-24-2008, 08:38 AM
You are doing a great job so far.
You can't please everyone all the time.
I am guilty of the free email account myself,I have had the same email account forever.
It is a matter of convenience for me.
I have changed service providers a few times , change of address can be a hassle at times.

TheReeler
08-24-2008, 08:46 AM
About emails. I'm using email since, more or less, 1996 and have tried lot of account types, from free to "golden" types, even from dedicated servers.

The best I've had anytime is gmail and is the only one I'm still using.

Why?:

- It rarelly fails, very very rare.
- I've lots of emails, received and sent and it's difficult to surf thru them. With gmail, you can, works identically to Google and can do searchs inside you mail. Now, I've near 20,000 emails and about 4 GB used by them
- If I go to other computer, I can always have my email with me. No matter where you are, your email is always there
- It's fast, very very fast and it's safe.

There's no comparisson between gmail and other free emails like hotmail and Yahoo. gmail plays in other league.

vinyldavid
08-24-2008, 09:47 AM
About emails. I'm using email since, more or less, 1996 and have tried lot of account types, from free to "golden" types, even from dedicated servers.

The best I've had anytime is gmail and is the only one I'm still using.

Why?:

- It rarelly fails, very very rare.
- I've lots of emails, received and sent and it's difficult to surf thru them. With gmail, you can, works identically to Google and can do searchs inside you mail. Now, I've near 20,000 emails and about 4 GB used by them
- If I go to other computer, I can always have my email with me. No matter where you are, your email is always there
- It's fast, very very fast and it's safe.

There's no comparisson between gmail and other free emails like hotmail and Yahoo. gmail plays in other league.

i've had mine since 7th grade, and now I'm i 11th grae, and in that total time, I've had 5 spam messages that did not get filtered. Just FIVE! In all of that time, I've never had it fail.

I also use it as a nice online music storage space, as I just send the files to myself and they stay there in the archive for when I search for them.....a great boon at school.

In addition to what you said.

It's the BEST.

TheReeler
08-24-2008, 11:58 AM
About spam filter, gmail is the best out there, no doubt about it. It's an error to think that gmail is in the same league that others.

Des-Lab
08-24-2008, 02:02 PM
Guys. I think you are reading the directions in reverse chronological order here. If you guys say that Gmail is great at CATCHING spam, great. If it works to your satisfaction, more power to you.

That has no bearing whatsoever on why I chose to block it.

And that was because of it's ability to generate spam. Regardless of how good it is to the user, the fact remains that it's a disposable domain (along with Yahoo and Hotmail) where anyone can create virtually unlimited accounts and use them for pretty much anything. Get banned with one address? No problem. You can have another one created in five minutes. And another. And another. And another.

close652
08-24-2008, 03:22 PM
I checked my spam at Gmail mailbox, and found out that none of them were sent from a gmail/hotmail/yahoo account.

How big was that threat? Personally I can live with a couple spam messages per week but I hate to think that some people are refused to register because they do not have a 'proper' e-mail address.

TheReeler
08-24-2008, 03:36 PM
That has no bearing whatsoever on why I chose to block it.

Wait a minute. I'm saying why gmail is maybe the best email account that anyone can have, no asking why are you blocking them. Is your forum, so you decide.

But, any "professional spammer" knows that the sender ID will be any different server than the typical.

Most ISP provides free email account creation, and a large part of them, provides a creation of your own "@typewhatyouwant.com" also for free. I tried it sometime ago and could create and delete as many accounts as I wanted... but could only have 99 at a time.

If not, there's a webpage (I won't tell which one is) that provides you with an email account that only exists during 10 minutes only, and after that, it deletes itself. It exists to pass thru the true email required that some pages, like this one, asks for registration. It's normally that after registering in a web, you'll begin to receive spam, sooner or later, so... there're hundreds of manners to bypass your system by a spammer.

More or less, maybe you'll stop a 1% of the potential spammers and will block a 99% of potential active members.

Of course, you make the rules that you want, but I'm only saying that gmail is the mail and favorite account of a large quantity of people.

Des-Lab
08-24-2008, 03:58 PM
Please see updated bulletin.

close652
08-25-2008, 12:25 AM
Fair! With membership verification you can filter out the spammers.
I hope it does not mean much more work for you.

vinyldavid
08-25-2008, 05:22 AM
Definitely fair!!!!

niklasthedolphin
08-27-2008, 04:55 AM
Talking about weekly updates.......................

Des.............wouldn't you please update the design of the web-site in a way that makes it possible for the subject line to remain in the thread on following pages after #1?

It's better for the overview that way.

"dolph"

Scorpion8
08-27-2008, 07:39 AM
I think the new registration verification is a great idea. Kudos. I'll offer to help out if the workload gets too heavy.

Des-Lab
08-28-2008, 07:47 PM
Well even with the new and revised requirements, there still isn't exactly a stampede of people rushing in to join. So far, only two new reg's this week. And one of them was immediately banned upon viewing his pending messages (spam). I see a lot of registration ATTEMPTS, but I can only surmise that the join requirements are chasing a lot of people (likely spammers IMO) off.

So I still have it under control. But rest assured. When I need help. I'll ask for it.

Scorpion8
08-28-2008, 07:51 PM
Des.............wouldn't you please update the design of the web-site in a way that makes it possible for the subject line to remain in the thread on following pages after #1?

Dolph -- what web browser are you using? In Internet Explorer, the title of the post usually shows up in the title bar of the active window. At least it does on my version (US, IE7) until you hit Quick Reply or some other action. Does that solve it for ya?

niklasthedolphin
08-29-2008, 06:25 AM
Dolph -- what web browser are you using? In Internet Explorer, the title of the post usually shows up in the title bar of the active window. At least it does on my version (US, IE7) until you hit Quick Reply or some other action. Does that solve it for ya?

I use FF latest release.

But I have the same problem in IE 7.0.5730.11

"dolph"

Scorpion8
08-29-2008, 09:46 AM
Dolph -- So your's doesn't do this? If you look at the screen shot closely, the light blue band at the top of the IE window showing a Tapeheads screen shot says "What's Playing Today - Page 15 - Tapeheads.net - Windows Internet Explorer" and the title of this thread was "What's Playing Today". That original subject title carries thru on each screen of the thread. Even tells you which page you're on. The tab shows the window subject title also.

http://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p141/Scorpion008/ScreenShot.jpg

niklasthedolphin
08-29-2008, 11:09 AM
Dolph -- So your's doesn't do this? If you look at the screen shot closely, the light blue band at the top of the IE window showing a Tapeheads screen shot says "What's Playing Today - Page 15 - Tapeheads.net - Windows Internet Explorer" and the title of this thread was "What's Playing Today". That original subject title carries thru on each screen of the thread. Even tells you which page you're on. The tab shows the window subject title also.



COOOOL

I kind of owersaw that.
I was staring blind on what's inside the window.

Thanks a lot.

"dolph"

Scorpion8
08-29-2008, 04:24 PM
I've often been accused of missing the forest for the trees .... :D