View Full Version : A deck with dolby S vs. Naks without it-which is better sounding
gonzo
08-17-2008, 01:59 PM
I haven't heard Dolby S, nor have I heard any real good Nak decks, I have read that Dolby S can sound quite good. Will a well executed deck with dolby S sound better than a good nak deck without it? Just curious. Thanks Norm
Acoustic
08-17-2008, 02:08 PM
Personally I went with no dolby of any kind and a good Nak... and then shrived to learn good recording technique. To me my pair of CA-5's are 'good' enough. Mainly because of the music I listen to. Trio to sextet jazz ensembles. Sure I listen to a lot of other music but this is what I built my system around shinning on.*hope*
niklasthedolphin
08-17-2008, 02:56 PM
Best recordings come out of tape/deck combo good enough to be used w/o NR.
"dolph"
MacGyver
08-17-2008, 04:31 PM
the recordings i made for the travelling tape are without DOLBY. let me know how you guys feel about them when you listen...
macster
08-17-2008, 04:40 PM
I haven't heard Dolby S, nor have I heard any real good Nak decks, I have read that Dolby S can sound quite good. Will a well executed deck with dolby S sound better than a good nak deck without it? Just curious. Thanks Norm
I'll take a shot at one part of your question. I always use Dolby C when I'm making a recording with my Naks. In my system and in my experience, it just makes sense for an optimized recording using the cassette medium. But... it's only fair to state that all of my NAKs (Well the one's I use for reference recordings) have been gone through and are up to factory spec. My system was built for listening to mainly acoustic jazz, and is tubed based or warm and fuzzy for the most part.
Now back to the point, if you really want to know, you'll have to slay this dragon yourself. Try each of them in your system and comparethe results. If, you want to know what other decks to consider besides the NAKs, then I'd would suggest the Revox B-215, parts are available, repair is reasonable, and the machine is solid as heck. The B-215 also makes; great tapes, wonderful tapes, smooth sounding tapes and it makes good tapes. *reelspin*!jam!
I'd also recommend a Tascam 122 Mk I-III, but the Revox is better.
m~
Mr. Lin
08-17-2008, 06:54 PM
Personally I went with no dolby of any kind and a good Nak... and then shrived to learn good recording technique. To me my pair of CA-5's are 'good' enough. Mainly because of the music I listen to. Trio to sextet jazz ensembles. Sure I listen to a lot of other music but this is what I built my system around shinning on.*hope*
Shrived? Shinning? Help me out please, Acoustic.
Acoustic
08-17-2008, 07:11 PM
Shrived? Shinning? Help me out please, Acoustic.
Whoooops*headache*. Shrived... typo... supposed to be strived. 1. To exert much effort or energy; endeavor.
Shinning... another typo... supposed to be shining. 3. To distinguish oneself in an activity or a field; excel. I meant that my system is built around excelling with that type of music as opposed to hard rock.
Sorry... I think I need the help more than you!!*check*
Mr. Lin
08-17-2008, 10:35 PM
Whoooops*headache*. Shrived... typo... supposed to be strived. 1. To exert much effort or energy; endeavor.
Shinning... another typo... supposed to be shining. 3. To distinguish oneself in an activity or a field; excel. I meant that my system is built around excelling with that type of music as opposed to hard rock.
Sorry... I think I need the help more than you!!*check*
It's ok, I wasn't trying to be funny either, I actually thought you might be using terms I was not familiar with. *eyepop*
Marc Hugo
08-18-2008, 12:02 AM
Quick one - matter of taste. I like Nak sound in all settings - but Nak as a "different" sound which I believe is not as neutral as my top decks with Dolby S. However, I love that sound.
Dolby S is a revelation and non-Naks, such as Sony, Pioneer and TEAC are better with "the facility" than without. Dolby B on a good machine (better again on a dual capstan machine) is OK, Dolby C can be excellent if you do not stray from the recording machine. If you do, the Dolby C is very susceptible to tracking and decode errors: this gave it a poor name.
Dolby S is way superior - not affecting only one band like "B", nor 2 bands such as "C", but five bands. Dolby SR is effected on 10 frequency bands. (Pro standard). The problem arising from transfering of encoded tapes from deck to deck is practically eliminated with Dolby S; the impact of modulation noise is reduced too. I forget all the positive impacts of the technology. Dolby S, on, say, a TEAC V8030S or Sony TC-KA3ES is min 25dB - that amounts to 90dB on a TDK AR (type one gentlemen!!) or about the same on a Maxell MX. Typical dynamic range on TDK SA-X from 1992 would be more than 88.8dB.
Got to shoot!! Have a great day - Marc
stuwee
08-18-2008, 02:55 PM
It's ok, I wasn't trying to be funny either, I actually thought you might be using terms I was not familiar with. *eyepop*
I thought it was funny, Andy has the party supply's folks!*Hi5* Break it out Andy!! *stirpot*:-oo:-oo*beer**punk*--smokin--
Acoustic
08-18-2008, 06:41 PM
I'll bet you all never did something wild and outlandish like that when you had your first beer too!!! *hypnot* :D (BTW: That was just a joke... I'm alcohol free.)
stuwee
08-18-2008, 06:53 PM
I'll bet you all never did something wild and outlandish like that when you had your first beer too!!! *hypnot* :D (BTW: That was just a joke... I'm alcohol free.)
I've been alcohol free and just about everything else as well for about a year now, even the med's the Doc gives me are no fun *fit* Can you imagine what I'd be like if I wasn't sober??? Scarey eh?
Lock up the kids and pets Uncle stuwee's on a bender *devil*
stuwee
08-18-2008, 06:55 PM
gonzo, sorry for steppin' all over your thread, I learned alot from it though, *Hi5*
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