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Dazen1
06-10-2010, 01:14 PM
http://www.latimesmagazine.com/2010/06/hear-and-now.html
westgate
06-10-2010, 01:49 PM
http://www.latimesmagazine.com/2010/06/hear-and-now.html
http://www.4channelsound.com/
so there! *wave*
Elite-ist
06-10-2010, 01:50 PM
Hi Daren,
Thanks for the heads up link!
See, quad is not dead, after all. Who out there, besides westgate and retrokeeper, has a fully functioning quad system? With quad encoded tapes or vinyl?
Nando.
retrokeeper
06-10-2010, 02:08 PM
Somebody mention my name?!? I DO have a fully functional quad system,with a Realistic 4-channel receiver,4 Radio Shack Nova 7 (I think thats the model #) speakers (the key to hearing it correctly was to have 4 speakers of the same type),and an Akai 4-channel 8-track recorder/player.The Akai is absolutely the best 8-track deck I have ever heard,with a freq. response that goes up to 16000hz.,and a massive flywheel attached to the capstan for really low wow & flutter,a real problem with some players.The Technic's version of this deck probably sounds this good also.I have other 4-channel receivers,but space contraints only allow me a few choices in the Mantuary at this time.
The 4-channel sound was at best a consumer gimmick back then,who wanted to be setting up in the band or symphony listening to the music?...unless you were a musician or band member.I only have 4 8-track tapes in 4 channel,nothing really exciting musically,just showing off how you can make sound of different instruments come out of 4 different channels,I guess.This article brings a new light to some of the recordings I don't have,and will only make them more desirable to those who want to experiance the 4-channel sound experience.There were other side offerings in 4-channel sound,some enhancement to stereo sound was possible thru the receiver's/amplifier's circuitry,and it's fun to listen to the effect,sort of a precursor to Dolby Surround,crude,but listenable.
I enjoy my current 4-channel set-up,though my audio room layout doesn't take advantage of the "Please set in the center of the room" conditions needed to properly listen to true vintage 4-channel...but it's pretty close,and like I stated earlier,stereo recordings sound great on it. Rob
Dazen1
06-10-2010, 02:15 PM
http://www.4channelsound.com/
Thanks for the link. *Hi5*
See, quad is not dead, after all. Who out there, besides westgate and retrokeeper, has a fully functioning quad system? With quad encoded tapes or vinyl?
Quad sound has always intrigued me Nando. I would love to check it out one day. I'm not a R2R guy, but I would imagine quadraphonic reel-to-reel is quite something!
westgate
06-10-2010, 02:20 PM
Thanks for the link. *Hi5*
Quad sound has always intrigued me Nando. I would love to check it out one day. I'm not a R2R guy, but I would imagine quadraphonic reel-to-reel is quite something!
actually, quad sound was 'something' back in the day. in our current world, with 5.1, 7.1, etc surround sound systems, quad isn't really all that impressive. but i've been doing it for so long that i just can't quit it. and i do have the 5.1 stuff also (actually what i have is 5.1 source components all running into a 4.0 (quad?) sound system. hey, works for me!
mostly, besides listening to the great sounding music, i like to watch the reels spinning on my r2rs, it relaxes me. or something. *reelspin**reelspin*
Dazen1
06-10-2010, 02:21 PM
Somebody mention my name?!? I DO have a fully fuctional quad system,with a Realistic 4-channel receiver,4 Radio Shack Nova 7 (I think thats the model #) speakers (the key to hearing it correctly was to have 4 speakers of the same type),and an Akai 4-channel 8-track recorder/player.The Akai is absolutely the best 8-track deck I have ever heard,with a freq. response that goes up to 16000hz.,and a massive flywheel attached to the capstan for really low wow & flutter,a real problem with some players.The Technic's version of this deck probably sounds this good also.I have other 4-channel receivers,but space contraints only allow me a few choices in the Mantuary at this time.
The 4-channel sound was at best a consumer gimmick back then,who wanted to be setting up in the band or symphony listening to the music?...unless you were a musician or band member.I only have 4 8-track tapes in 4 channel,nothing really exciting musically,just showing off how you can make sound of different instruments come out of 4 different channels,I guess.This article brings a new light to some of the recordings I don't have,and will only make them more desirable to those who want to experiance the 4-channel sound experience.There were other side offerings in 4-channel sound,some enhancement to stereo sound was possible thru the receiver's/amplifier's circuitry,and it's fun to listen to the effect,sort of a precursor to Dolby Surround,crude,but listenable.
I enjoy my current 4-channel set-up,though my audio room layout doesn't take advantage of the "Please set in the center of the room" conditions needed to properly listen to true vintage 4-channel...but it's pretty close,and like I stated earlier,stereo recordings sound great on it. Rob
Sounds fascinating. Rob, have you already posted pics elsewhere on the site?
Dazen1
06-10-2010, 02:33 PM
actually, quad sound was 'something' back in the day. in our current world, with 5.1, 7.1, etc surround sound systems, quad isn't really all that impressive. but i've been doing it for so long that i just can't quit it. and i do have the 5.1 stuff also (actually what i have is 5.1 source components all running into a 4.0 (quad?) sound system. hey, works for me!
mostly, besides listening to the great sounding music, i like to watch the reels spinning on my r2rs, it relaxes me or something. *reelspin**reelspin*
I have to confess, I thought quad sound was restricted to vinyl. *embarrased* I'll get my coat...
westgate
06-10-2010, 02:40 PM
I have to confess, I thought quad sound was restricted to vinyl. *embarrased* I'll get my coat...
re 'quad on vinyl', i should get my coat also.
back in the day, 1973 or so, i was so enamored of quad r2r i totally neglected to get into quad vinyl, ie cd-4, sq, etc. some friends had quad vinyl setups and i used to record their quad albums onto my quad r2rs, still have the tapes but they shed a bit.
last year, i bought several LPs from the local thrift store and didn't even realize they were quad, sq, albums til i went to play them a few weeks later. still have those but no quad tt/cart/etc, just a stereo tt on which they still sound great.
Elite-ist
06-10-2010, 07:03 PM
Somebody mention my name?!? I DO have a fully fuctional quad system,with a Realistic 4-channel receiver,4 Radio Shack Nova 7 (I think thats the model #) speakers (the key to hearing it correctly was to have 4 speakers of the same type),and an Akai 4-channel 8-track recorder/player.The Akai is absolutely the best 8-track deck I have ever heard,with a freq. response that goes up to 16000hz.,and a massive flywheel attached to the capstan for really low wow & flutter,a real problem with some players.The Technic's version of this deck probably sounds this good also.I have other 4-channel receivers,but space contraints only allow me a few choices in the Mantuary at this time.
The 4-channel sound was at best a consumer gimmick back then,who wanted to be setting up in the band or symphony listening to the music?...unless you were a musician or band member.I only have 4 8-track tapes in 4 channel,nothing really exciting musically,just showing off how you can make sound of different instruments come out of 4 different channels,I guess.This article brings a new light to some of the recordings I don't have,and will only make them more desirable to those who want to experiance the 4-channel sound experience.There were other side offerings in 4-channel sound,some enhancement to stereo sound was possible thru the receiver's/amplifier's circuitry,and it's fun to listen to the effect,sort of a precursor to Dolby Surround,crude,but listenable.
I enjoy my current 4-channel set-up,though my audio room layout doesn't take advantage of the "Please set in the center of the room" conditions needed to properly listen to true vintage 4-channel...but it's pretty close,and like I stated earlier,stereo recordings sound great on it. Rob
Hi Rob,
And like me, I'm sure you have a few of Larry's blank quad 8-tracks, remember? Have you got more than one 4-channel receiver? Do you also have any stand-alone decoders?
I have about a half dozen quad LPs and I'll be hunting for some quad reel tapes, as I just got a Pioneer RT-1020L. You have "Dark Side Of The Moon" on quad? How rare is it?
Nando.
Warped Bezel
06-10-2010, 09:15 PM
Somebody mention my name?!? I DO have a fully fuctional quad system,with a Realistic 4-channel receiver,4 Radio Shack Nova 7 (I think thats the model #) speakers (the key to hearing it correctly was to have 4 speakers of the same type),and an Akai 4-channel 8-track recorder/player.The Akai is absolutely the best 8-track deck I have ever heard,with a freq. response that goes up to 16000hz.,and a massive flywheel attached to the capstan for really low wow & flutter,a real problem with some players.The Technic's version of this deck probably sounds this good also.I have other 4-channel receivers,but space contraints only allow me a few choices in the Mantuary at this time.
The 4-channel sound was at best a consumer gimmick back then,who wanted to be setting up in the band or symphony listening to the music?...unless you were a musician or band member.I only have 4 8-track tapes in 4 channel,nothing really exciting musically,just showing off how you can make sound of different instruments come out of 4 different channels,I guess.This article brings a new light to some of the recordings I don't have,and will only make them more desirable to those who want to experiance the 4-channel sound experience.There were other side offerings in 4-channel sound,some enhancement to stereo sound was possible thru the receiver's/amplifier's circuitry,and it's fun to listen to the effect,sort of a precursor to Dolby Surround,crude,but listenable.
I enjoy my current 4-channel set-up,though my audio room layout doesn't take advantage of the "Please set in the center of the room" conditions needed to properly listen to true vintage 4-channel...but it's pretty close,and like I stated earlier,stereo recordings sound great on it. Rob
In closer quarters it's not bad, remember to use discrete/CD-4 to get 4-channel stereo from non quad sources and you can often get decent quality sound with all four channel being amped somewhat similarly.
My JVC 4VR-5446 is just sittung there in working order because the dialstring is waiting to be put back and that has the faceplace reassembly waiting and all that to replace the lamps. Been apart for three years. It's a REAL amp, eats others for lunch, burps and excuses itself. Someday.
retrokeeper
06-10-2010, 09:35 PM
I think I have about 8 different 4-channel receivers,3 of them being JVC's,don't have the model #'s offhand.I need to get them all up and running.Have this huge Akai one that's really cool looking.No stand-alone decoders Nando,would love to have that recording by Led Z though.I do have a few quad records,but they are just mainly demo-types,introduction type stuff to 4-channel.I am lacking anyway to play SQ records,but can play of course 8-tracks,no way to play reel-to-reels at this time,don't even think I have any tapes either.I have some brochures for some of the 4-channel offerings back then,JVC was one of my favorites,along with Radio Shack's gear,and then there was Panasonic,they had some nice stereo's,nothing high powered,but cool looks and features.Most of Panasonic's offerings where combo units...8-track/am-fm stereo's,etc.,combo units. Rob
Warped Bezel
06-10-2010, 09:53 PM
I still have that poor abused Montgomery Ward AIRLINE that needs Bionics like Steve Austin...
*butt* -------- *butt*
. \ . . . . . ./
. .. .*fit*
./ . . . . . . \
*butt* -------- *butt* Oh well, 2 bucks. And I can never get vBulletins to do that right.
Skywavebe
06-11-2010, 09:27 AM
Worry Not!
I have had quad tapes, recorders and the speakers and amps to run it from day one. My first real Reel deck was the A3340S. I sold that one but have numerous 4 channel decks in hand as well as spare heads and three Sansui Quad receivers. I never gave up on it even if I had to live in my own little world. I have at some future time an intention to copy the tapes I have for others and want to get others to either allow me to or to get copies from them as well so as to rebuild a more solid existence of these tapes even on new RMGI or ATR stock. Why not let the next generation hear what we were fooling around with back in the olden days. That is if they are forward thinking enough to get off those Ipods and hear some real music.
Elite-ist
06-11-2010, 09:39 AM
Worry Not!
I have had quad tapes, recorders and the speakers and amps to run it from day one. My first real Reel deck was the A3340S. I sold that one but have numerous 4 channel decks in hand as well as spare heads and three Sansui Quad receivers. I never gave up on it even if I had to live in my own little world. I have at some future time an intention to copy the tapes I have for others and want to get others to either allow me to or to get copies from them as well so as to rebuild a more solid existence of these tapes even on new RMGI or ATR stock. Why not let the next generation hear what we were fooling around with back in the olden days. That is if they are forward thinking enough to get off those Ipods and hear some real music.
Hi Sam,
I'm interested in your quad recording capability. Could you keep us informed of when you may offer this service? Would you also be set up to record from 4-channel vinyl onto reel tape? I don't have a single quad pre-recorded reel tape, yet. Have you heard Pink Floyd's DSOTM quad tape? Any particular discreet format which is best? I have a Sansui QR-4500 receiver and a Pioneer QD-210 decoder.
Nando.
Skywavebe
06-11-2010, 11:47 AM
Hi Nando,
I have a turntable but I never got into the CD-4 type decoding equipment.
My idea was back when I bought an Aardvark 4 channel audio card was to digitize all the reels to high quality digital format and then be able to reproduce these 4 channel tapes without the typical analog to analog transfer process. Before I start to do this I shall consult experts such a Richard Hess but as I see it this would be the best way to archive these materials without using two reel machines at the same time. I have about 6 4 channel machines in hand from 44OB, to 44, 40-4 and some A3340S. I have a pile of Otari machines but no 4 channel ones. This is going to take me catching up with repairs and getting a lot of equipment out of the basement and to be able to put my studio back together again. Right now items are in place but they are not hooked up together completely. Always
more repairs coming in as well as little things like sickness and my wife having her knee replaced this past Tuesday- she relies on my for some support on that account and I have not been long in the basement because of that.
When I get a reliable product out, I will be sure to let all know.
Elite-ist
06-12-2010, 04:25 PM
Hi Nando,
I have a turntable but I never got into the CD-4 type decoding equipment.
My idea was back when I bought an Aardvark 4 channel audio card was to digitize all the reels to high quality digital format and then be able to reproduce these 4 channel tapes without the typical analog to analog transfer process. Before I start to do this I shall consult experts such a Richard Hess but as I see it this would be the best way to archive these materials without using two reel machines at the same time. I have about 6 4 channel machines in hand from 44OB, to 44, 40-4 and some A3340S. I have a pile of Otari machines but no 4 channel ones. This is going to take me catching up with repairs and getting a lot of equipment out of the basement and to be able to put my studio back together again. Right now items are in place but they are not hooked up together completely. Always
more repairs coming in as well as little things like sickness and my wife having her knee replaced this past Tuesday- she relies on my for some support on that account and I have not been long in the basement because of that.
When I get a reliable product out, I will be sure to let all know.
Hi Sam,
I hope your wife has a speedy recovery from her knee operation. It can't be too much fun for her to get around, right now.
Is it downstairs where you call home base for your studio? Most of your equipment is ex-studio gear, I assume. Are you about to patch your various playback/recording sources so they can be individually selected through a selection device? That can be a chore, especially, when you're including stand-alone NR devices.
So, in simple terms, you will transfer 4-channel analog source material into digital files via the computer audio card and programming then have it stored digitally. Then back through the D/A converter to record onto analog reel tape with your quad R2R(s).
Nando.
Skywavebe
06-12-2010, 09:53 PM
Hi Nando,
Most of my equipment comes from the Teac/Tascam line of products. I worked on a lot of studio gear but what I see is the same thing that Tascam uses in their mixers to most part minus the slightly better pots. Still with proper care and some maintenance the stuff can and has lasted a long time. I use a Model 520 mixer linked to a M50 that will be linked to a M1516. I have Patch bays, DX-4D stand alone dBx units as well as other stuff. Recently I have added some Pro MD units that were discarded from the station both of the Denon and Tascam brand. I am surrounded by working but some uncalibrated decks of the Teac, Ampex, Otari and Tascam line with Pioneer and Teac cassette decks as a side line and then when I run out of work on those I have Pioneer and Sansui receivers collected.
The audio path that I wanted to use was the one you describe with the side line being the duplication. My main intention is to be able to save the material on the 4 channel tapes I have and then make better ones using some slight adjustments in the digital domain and to back up tapes in the DVD storage media so that if the collection was ever compromised it could be recovered with some hours of work. Now if the archive product is good and a duplication process that I use to get it back onto tape works well, there is no reason that I could not make a copy of two for the few that want to be part of this agreement. The materials cost and shipping might be the only cost but I have yet to complete a successful copy as of yet. At the time I asked a Video Engineer friend what card to use and he suggested this card was the in-thing for the price. Since then Aardvark has disappeared due to partners not agreeing on things so I may have to upgrade yet still to another card. I like balanced cards and they have to have 4 channel capability and then have specs that are higher than that of tape so as not to degrade the signal. This may not be the only answer but one I have as an option. The recording machines I do this on will be calibrated to the tape I choose (Probably SM911) and then a test recording to compare original to copy to see if there are difference. I am not doing a job like Tape Project as I do not have the time to devote to the tape transfer as there will be little if any profit to it. I don't expect to get more than a few to a dozen people wanting in. And NO, I do not have DSOTM from Pink Floyd as a Quad. I am sure some one has it and they may want to contribute.
My wife is doing well and the Surgeon is World renown and has a waiting list for his procedure even including movie stars and people from Europe.
His name is Dr. Burger who I am told is a MD as well as an Mechanical Engineer. He does about 1000 knees and hips per year. People often times walk out the same day of operation- one knee at a time. She has been in pain for 10 plus years so we will see what this brings.
Superfly
12-09-2010, 12:46 AM
Hi Daren,
Thanks for the heads up link!
See, quad is not dead, after all. Who out there, besides westgate and retrokeeper, has a fully functioning quad system? With quad encoded tapes or vinyl?
Nando.
I do.
Marantz 4400 quad reciever with SQ-A full-logic decoder
Maranttz CD-400B disc demodulator for CD-4
Sumiko Blue Point cartridge which tracks 7-70,000Hz and Audio Technica ATN-15 which can track the 35,000Hz carrier frequency
Technics RS-858US quadraphonic 8track player/recorder
Teac A-2340 4 channel reel to reel player/recoder
Pioneer SE-Q quadraphonic headphones
1977 Lincoln Town Car with factory quadraphonic 8track tape player.
25 quadraphonic reel to reel releases
200 quadraphonic 8track tapes
75 quadraphonic LPs.
Skywavebe
12-09-2010, 09:32 AM
Hello Group,
The question was put- Who has an operating Quad setup?
Well I have three Sansui QRX6500 units all the speakers and several 4 channel open reel decks to link to these items. The trouble is most of them are not hooked up or in the past I have not had the time to do it but now that unemployment is upon me before the next job, maybe it will be time to do this as well as my post production studio. Quad will always be alive.
Dazen1
12-09-2010, 12:17 PM
It is great to see you guys keeping it alive. I wish I could hear your systems in action.
Elite-ist
12-11-2010, 07:13 AM
I do.
Marantz 4400 quad reciever with SQ-A full-logic decoder
Maranttz CD-400B disc demodulator for CD-4
Sumiko Blue Point cartridge which tracks 7-70,000Hz and Audio Technica ATN-15 which can track the 35,000Hz carrier frequency
Technics RS-858US quadraphonic 8track player/recorder
Teac A-2340 4 channel reel to reel player/recoder
Pioneer SE-Q quadraphonic headphones
1977 Lincoln Town Car with factory quadraphonic 8track tape player.
25 quadraphonic reel to reel releases
200 quadraphonic 8track tapes
75 quadraphonic LPs.
Hi Superfly,
That is a fine collection of quadraphonic gear and quad-encoded media. Even down to the quad headphones. I have a pair, here, somewhere.
I, also, checked out your 1977 Lincoln Town Car in the "Car Mods" section. It's a beaut, and it appears to be a fine and fitting restoration for a classic!
Just out of curiousity, what would be the rarest title of your quad reel, 8-tracks, or LPs? Any quad open reel is very difficult to find.
Nando.
Arnold_Layne
12-11-2010, 08:42 AM
I have enough equipment to set up a complete quad system, however, with limited space in my "man cave" I need to make it co-exist with my home theater set up. So I'm tempted to use a pair of Niles amp to speaker switches (allows you to choose between two different amps to one pair of speakers, hence the need for two of them for quad).
The quad gear I have:
Sansui QRX-9001 receiver. Decodes CD-4/QS/SQ.
Akai CR80DSS quad 8 track recorder
Technics RS858US quad 8 track recorder
Panasonic quad 8 track player (forget the model number at the moment)
Lafayette SQ-W SQ decoder
Teac 3340S quad reel to reel
Most of the gear I bought cheap off Ebay over the past several years. While they all work, they are all in need of cleaning, adjustment, aliment, etc. If anyone here works on this type of gear, send me a PM, I'd love to get them working to full potential.
A_L
westgate
12-11-2010, 03:29 PM
this thread wouldn't be complete without posting this closed ebay auction re pink floyds 'dark side of the moon', quad reel to reel tape. with video.
the ebay listing (http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rt=nc&nma=true&item=260703224626&si=2E1OS58Hh%252Fs%252Fz9zJE8H0mLCDwNs%253D&viewitem=&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWAX%3AIT), now closed.
the video (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qr8vphhLTUo)
i wanted to bid on it also but ebay being ebay, i just didn't have faith that said tape was the real thing. still not sure.
Arnold_Layne
12-11-2010, 03:36 PM
A bootleg of the original quad mix surfaced a few years ago sourced from a 1/2" 4 channel safety copy of the master tape. Anyone with a DVD-Audio player and a 4 channel reel to reel deck can easily make a discrete quad reel.
If anyone wants to pay me for a quad reel to reel of DSOTM I'll start taking orders :P
A_L
westgate
12-11-2010, 03:38 PM
A bootleg of the original quad mix surfaced a few years ago sourced from a 1/2" 4 channel safety copy of the master tape. Anyone with a DVD-Audio player and a 4 channel reel to reel deck can easily make a discrete quad reel.
If anyone wants to pay me for a quad reel to reel of DSOTM I'll start taking orders :P
A_L
i wondered if that might be going on.
i can play dts tracks off many of my discs. but i haven't actually tried to do it in a 4 channel environment yet. i think i could make quad tapes from some/all (?) them now if i wanted to.
the pulse dvd, which i have, might be a good one to try it out on.
Arnold_Layne
12-11-2010, 03:47 PM
i wondered if that might be going on.
i can play dts tracks off my many of my discs. but i haven't actually done so yet. i think i could make quad tapes from them now if i wanted to.
The discrete Parsons mix is something to hear. The SQ quad LP and the poorly done US Q8 cannot compare. The bootleg was done in high res 4.1 DVD-A. The mix in my opinion rivals the 5.1 mix of the SACD official release.
The only other source for the discrete Parsons mix is the UK Q8.
A_L
Warped Bezel
12-11-2010, 09:00 PM
Hi Nando,
Most of my equipment comes from the Teac/Tascam line of products. I worked on a lot of studio gear but what I see is the same thing that Tascam uses in their mixers to most part minus the slightly better pots. Still with proper care and some maintenance the stuff can and has lasted a long time. I use a Model 520 mixer linked to a M50 that will be linked to a M1516. I have Patch bays, DX-4D stand alone dBx units as well as other stuff. Recently I have added some Pro MD units that were discarded from the station both of the Denon and Tascam brand. I am surrounded by working but some uncalibrated decks of the Teac, Ampex, Otari and Tascam line with Pioneer and Teac cassette decks as a side line and then when I run out of work on those I have Pioneer and Sansui receivers collected.
The audio path that I wanted to use was the one you describe with the side line being the duplication. My main intention is to be able to save the material on the 4 channel tapes I have and then make better ones using some slight adjustments in the digital domain and to back up tapes in the DVD storage media so that if the collection was ever compromised it could be recovered with some hours of work. Now if the archive product is good and a duplication process that I use to get it back onto tape works well, there is no reason that I could not make a copy of two for the few that want to be part of this agreement. The materials cost and shipping might be the only cost but I have yet to complete a successful copy as of yet. At the time I asked a Video Engineer friend what card to use and he suggested this card was the in-thing for the price. Since then Aardvark has disappeared due to partners not agreeing on things so I may have to upgrade yet still to another card. I like balanced cards and they have to have 4 channel capability and then have specs that are higher than that of tape so as not to degrade the signal. This may not be the only answer but one I have as an option. The recording machines I do this on will be calibrated to the tape I choose (Probably SM911) and then a test recording to compare original to copy to see if there are difference. I am not doing a job like Tape Project as I do not have the time to devote to the tape transfer as there will be little if any profit to it. I don't expect to get more than a few to a dozen people wanting in. And NO, I do not have DSOTM from Pink Floyd as a Quad. I am sure some one has it and they may want to contribute.
My wife is doing well and the Surgeon is World renown and has a waiting list for his procedure even including movie stars and people from Europe.
His name is Dr. Burger who I am told is a MD as well as an Mechanical Engineer. He does about 1000 knees and hips per year. People often times walk out the same day of operation- one knee at a time. She has been in pain for 10 plus years so we will see what this brings.
Sam, I love to hear doctors' names for the oddities of some of them, not for what they do necessarily as some are TOO CLOSE.
We used to have an orthopedic surgeon named Dr. Bills!
westgate
12-11-2010, 09:02 PM
Sam, I love to hear doctors' names for the oddities of some of them, not for what they do necessarily as some are TOO CLOSE.
We used to have an orthopedic surgeon named Dr. Bills!
when i was a kid we had a GP name of dr. banks. maybe they were cousins...
Warped Bezel
12-11-2010, 09:26 PM
Hi Daren,
Thanks for the heads up link!
See, quad is not dead, after all. Who out there, besides westgate and retrokeeper, has a fully functioning quad system? With quad encoded tapes or vinyl?
Nando.
As soon as I redo the dialstring and assemble it again,
JVC 4VR-5446 (CD-4, matrix versions) one S.E.A. 5 band (as opposed to two on 5445), 1974 model
Pioneer QX-8000, c. 1971?-1973, rebuild needed
sold: Pioneer QX-737
Sony SQD-2020, not operable at this time
Montgomery Wards AIRLINE Q8 player/AM-FMS believed to be SQ, needs several repairs.
Other:
Audiosource Dolby Surround (4 channel matrix) decoder unit.
Yamaha DSR-70 PRO Prologic 5.1 (can be used to decode 4-channel Dolby Surround)
Notable multi channel materials ALL LASERDISCS:
XANADU
AMERICAN GRAFFITI
MOST OF THE 'MIND'S EYE' SERIES OF CGI COMPILATIONS
Others yet:
The Song Remains The Same-Led Zeppelin
'Thomas Dolby' 8" Laserdisc EP
Roy Orbison A Black And White Night
Eagles-Hell Freezes Over (WGBH produced for PBS originally)
Annie Lennox-Diva
James Taylor- ALSO originally produced for public TV
Elton John Concert (Barcelona '92 Olympics concert)
David Bowie-Serious Moonlight tour
VHS
Sting- Ten Summoner's Tales
Janet Jackson-(Rhythm Nation clips)
INXS-Live Baby Live and a videos collection
New Order Substance (1984-89 videos)
A video magazine issue Rock Hits Monthly-Green Day, The Refreshments, MC 800 Foot Jesus, Meat Puppets, The Church, Blur...circa 1991?
APHEX TWIN-COME TO VIDDY EP "Come To Daddy" and 3-4 other clips
One of the Doors' videos, MCA 1997?
It goes on...
Elite-ist
12-12-2010, 08:00 AM
A bootleg of the original quad mix surfaced a few years ago sourced from a 1/2" 4 channel safety copy of the master tape. Anyone with a DVD-Audio player and a 4 channel reel to reel deck can easily make a discrete quad reel.
If anyone wants to pay me for a quad reel to reel of DSOTM I'll start taking orders :P
A_L
Hi Arnold,
Well, I have the Pioneer player which will play DVD audio, and a Pioneer RT-1020L R2R machine that doesn't record, but allows playback of 4-channel tape.
I will be the first in line to have you record "Dark Side Of The Moon" in 4-channel. Orrr.... is your Pioneer RT-2022 taking up too much space at your place?
Nando.
Arnold_Layne
12-12-2010, 12:53 PM
I just wanted to let people here know if anyone has any quad albums they would like to have converted to digital (DVD-V/DVD-A or DTS audio CD) or backed up to another format (such as SQ vinyl to reel) I will volunteer my services. I will do this during my free time, and ask that return shipping is paid for. This offer is good only to members of tapeheads.net as I have a full time job and cannot do transfers 7 days a week.. Anyone interested can send me a PM.
I can transfer quad reels/quad 8 tracks/vinyl in SQ and QS (CD4 may be possible, but I have not have a suitable cartridge as of yet to handle the carrier signal.)
A_L
theboss2
12-26-2010, 02:26 PM
Warped Bezel
My current working Quad system consists of the following.
1-Dokorder 1140
1-Teac 3340S
1-Sony TC277-4
1-Realistic 944
1-Teac 4010SL
1-Nackamichi 2
2-Sundowner Turntables
1-TateII SQ decoder
1-Sansui QS-01 decoder
1-Teac 300 Dolby
1-Toshiba Quad Amp
1-Bose 4401 Quad preamp
1-Yamaha Quad Power Amp
1-Shure M24H Quad Cart
1-Audio Technica AT12Sa Quad Cart
1-Grace F9L cart(for SQ and QS vinyl)
1-Fosgate Model 4 (for syn quad)
4-Audio Source spkrs
2-Bose subs
1-Phase Linear 1000
All gear working for many years and sounds fantasic.
JW
Elite-ist
12-26-2010, 02:40 PM
Warped Bezel
My current working Quad system consists of the following.
1-Dokorder 1140
1-Teac 3340S
1-Sony TC277-4
1-Realistic 944
1-Teac 4010SL
1-Nackamichi 2
2-Sundowner Turntables
1-TateII SQ decoder
1-Sansui QS-01 decoder
1-Teac 300 Dolby
1-Toshiba Quad Amp
1-Bose 4401 Quad preamp
1-Yamaha Quad Power Amp
1-Shure M24H Quad Cart
1-Audio Technica AT12Sa Quad Cart
1-Grace F9L cart(for SQ and QS vinyl)
1-Fosgate Model 4 (for syn quad)
4-Audio Source spkrs
2-Bose subs
1-Phase Linear 1000
All gear working for many years and sounds fantasic.
JW
Hello boss2,
A very good assortment of quadraphonic components to draw from. Had you owned some of it since new? How are you faring as far as picking up titles in pre-recorded quad open reel tape? I bet, your quad vinyl collection is a little more extensive.
Nice to see you sign up for our forum! There's a little bit of everything for analog audio lovers who are members.
Nando.
Warped Bezel
12-26-2010, 06:41 PM
when i was a kid we had a GP name of dr. banks. maybe they were cousins...
My favorite 'doctor', other than Who, is still Dr. Audio (my friend Warren).
So, a shoutout to the Ministry Of Silly Walks!
Warped Bezel
12-26-2010, 06:43 PM
Wow. *hypnot*
Warped Bezel
My current working Quad system consists of the following.
1-Dokorder 1140
1-Teac 3340S
1-Sony TC277-4
1-Realistic 944
1-Teac 4010SL
1-Nackamichi 2
2-Sundowner Turntables
1-TateII SQ decoder
1-Sansui QS-01 decoder
1-Teac 300 Dolby
1-Toshiba Quad Amp
1-Bose 4401 Quad preamp
1-Yamaha Quad Power Amp
1-Shure M24H Quad Cart
1-Audio Technica AT12Sa Quad Cart
1-Grace F9L cart(for SQ and QS vinyl)
1-Fosgate Model 4 (for syn quad)
4-Audio Source spkrs
2-Bose subs
1-Phase Linear 1000
All gear working for many years and sounds fantasic.
JW
Rat44
12-26-2010, 07:01 PM
Warped Bezel
My current working Quad system consists of the following.
1-Dokorder 1140
1-Teac 3340S
1-Sony TC277-4
1-Realistic 944
1-Teac 4010SL
1-Nackamichi 2
2-Sundowner Turntables
1-TateII SQ decoder
1-Sansui QS-01 decoder
1-Teac 300 Dolby
1-Toshiba Quad Amp
1-Bose 4401 Quad preamp
1-Yamaha Quad Power Amp
1-Shure M24H Quad Cart
1-Audio Technica AT12Sa Quad Cart
1-Grace F9L cart(for SQ and QS vinyl)
1-Fosgate Model 4 (for syn quad)
4-Audio Source spkrs
2-Bose subs
1-Phase Linear 1000
All gear working for many years and sounds fantasic.
JW
Nice collection you have there.
I miss my PL 1000.
That was one of Phase Linears better ideas.
How does the AT12 compare to the other cartridges?
When I had a Quad setup I preferred the AT's.
theboss2
12-27-2010, 12:51 PM
The AT is Fine but I like the sound of the Shure better. I've used the Grace also for CD-4
and it was Great also.
theboss2
12-27-2010, 12:57 PM
Hello boss2,
A very good assortment of quadraphonic components to draw from. Had you owned some of it since new? How are you faring as far as picking up titles in pre-recorded quad open reel tape? I bet, your quad vinyl collection is a little more extensive.
Nice to see you sign up for our forum! There's a little bit of everything for analog audio lovers who are members.
Nando.
I've owned the majority of the gear since the 70's new. I managed a High End
audio store in South Bend , Ind. for many years. After the audio game I bought a theatre which I ran till I retired.
Thanks for the shout out
John
Elite-ist
12-27-2010, 08:25 PM
I've owned the majority of the gear since the 70's new. I managed a High End
audio store in South Bend , Ind. for many years. After the audio game I bought a theatre which I ran till I retired.
Thanks for the shout out
John
Hi John,
I suspected there was a chance, with that amount of quadraphonic machines, you got into the action from the get-go. It's nice to see you hang onto it all for as long as you have.
Nando.
theboss2
12-28-2010, 09:48 PM
Hi John,
I suspected there was a chance, with that amount of quadraphonic machines, you got into the action from the get-go. It's nice to see you hang onto it all for as long as you have.
Nando.
My original quad system consisted of a teac TCA-42 tape deck, 4 electro-voice Georgian IV speakers, (which my son has two of and my daughter has the other two} powered by 2 Kenwood KM 8002 amps.I then changed to
6 pair original Bose 901's driven by two Bose 1801 power amps and the 4401 preamp.I've had so much equipment over the years that I feel that I have
been extremely lucky.
John
Rat44
12-28-2010, 10:20 PM
4 channel was the only reason I had 2 pairs of 901's and 4 Phase Linear 400's.
Used a Harman Kardon ST-7 with a AT 20.
CD-4 was the way to go.*thumbsup*
The Bose 501's also were very popular for quad setups.
Warped Bezel
12-29-2010, 03:08 AM
Did Bose have any ads showing the speakers in four corners radiating sound waves? I'm not sure it was an actual ad about quad though, maybe later.
OlaHughson
04-25-2011, 04:20 PM
Well, my amplifier has quasi-quadrophonic capabilities [ You know, kind of "fake quadro"], through the 2 additional outs are not sending any signal. Maybe if I could find someone to look inside, he would enable them for me ^^
katana1100
05-01-2011, 04:46 PM
Rhino records remixed Chicago's first album ("Chicago Rapid Transit") into quadraphonic (or "quadio" as they like to call it) on CD, I think it is 96 bkps DTS, don't remember.
The disc sounds fantastic, especially the instrumental in "Beginnings". You can still get it from them, I think I paid $15 for it last year when it came out.
Nick Sunn
05-31-2011, 12:56 AM
at Ebay now
http://cgi.ebay.com/Doors-Best-Doors-Quadraphonic-pressing-/260790258978?pt=Music_on_Vinyl&hash=item3cb84f8d22
http://cgi.ebay.com/Steely-Dan-Can't-Buy-Thrill-RARE-QUADRAPHONIC-/160593515696?pt=Music_on_Vinyl&hash=item25641e94b0
http://cgi.ebay.com/PINK-FLOYD-THE-DARK-SIDE-MOON-QUADRAPHONIC-/250820343245?pt=AU_Records&hash=item3a660eb5cd
http://cgi.ebay.com/PAUL-SIMON-1st-solo-LP-QUADRAPHONIC-QUAD-Near-mint/360370534924?pt=Music_on_Vinyl&hash=item53e7c1fa0c
http://cgi.ebay.com/Jefferson-Starship-Red-Octopus-Rare-Quadraphonic-Disc-/190538615030?pt=Music_on_Vinyl&hash=item2c5cfc88f6
http://cgi.ebay.com/QUADRAPHONIC-Lp-Santana-Abraxas-VG-KX-/360370039837?pt=Music_on_Vinyl&hash=item53e7ba6c1d
This may be somewhat of a "rarity" for you James Taylor fans
and Quad Reel fans
http://cgi.ebay.com/JAMES-TAYLOR-KING-BISCUIT-QUADRAPHONIC-REELS-/260791834187?pt=Music_Other_Formats&hash=item3cb867964b
Just a sample of stuff that I saw out there in Ebayland. I DO NOT KNOW THE SELLERS. I'M NOT BIDDING ON ANY OF THESE.
I simply saw a bit of QUAD stuff out there cheap. The JT isn't cheap, but the quad Lp's are. Just thought it might interest QUAD fans.
The common QUAD Lp's in decent shape usually can be found most times on Ebay for very little cost. Obviously Sealed NOS and Perfect/Almost Never Played is a little more, but sometimes quad Lp's go for much less than STEREO & MONO copies.
Dazen1
12-05-2011, 01:30 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gVg-w7BjeCY
Elite-ist
12-05-2011, 06:07 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gVg-w7BjeCY
And that's the reason I"ll be rejigging my current system to achieve quadraphonic playback in 2012! I received an early birthday gift from Geri: a pair of rare Web speakers. And I have the rest of the components to complete a 4.0 system. No need for a sub-woofer.
Thanks for the clip link, Daren!
Nando.
Arnold_Layne
12-06-2011, 03:17 PM
I convert all my quads to digital so I can then play them back on an HTPC via HDMI to my HT receiver.
A_L
stereorob
12-06-2011, 03:45 PM
I still have that poor abused Montgomery Ward AIRLINE that needs Bionics like Steve Austin...
*butt* -------- *butt*
. \ . . . . . ./
. .. .*fit*
./ . . . . . . \
*butt* -------- *butt* Oh well, 2 bucks. And I can never get vBulletins to do that right.
*lmao**lmao**lmao**lmao**lmao*
HAHAHAHA! BEZEL THAT IS AWESOME MAN! I JUST ABOUT FELL OUTTA MY CHAIR I WAS LAUGHING SO HARD WHEN I SAW THIS!!
but anyway, yea quad stuff is alot of fun but very complex. its worth the effort if you have the gear for it though
sansui-qrx3500
teac-a2340r
jvc-4VR5456x
fisher 701 (the uber rare american one from 1970)
technics sa-4000x
technics quad 8-track, forget the model #
and many many more quad peices i just cant remember right now.
Dazen1
04-22-2012, 09:14 AM
http://www.quadrophonie.de/englisch/seeburgs_quadraphonic_first_edition.html
http://www.quadrophonie.de/englisch/seeburgs_quadraphonic_mini-lps.html
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