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braxus
08-05-2008, 09:20 PM
Here is what I believe to be Pioneers best effort that used Dolby S as well. I like the internal design of this deck with some nice features.
Marc Hugo
08-05-2008, 10:45 PM
HI Braxus,
She's a beaut; I see the box - have you just got that gem?
Marc
gamve
08-06-2008, 01:00 AM
Very Tasty, same sort of build quality as the PD75 and up CD players. you just gota love all that copper shielding.
stuartypoorty
08-06-2008, 03:18 AM
At the risk of sounding like my needle is stuck I'll bat on about the German Ebay site once more; a lot of Pioneer ( and more besides ) cassette equipment for sale, CT-93, CT-91, various Elite models etc in what appears to be mint or very good condition.
If you go to the site an enter tapedeck, kassettendeck/cassettendeck or a specific model you'll be pleasantly surprised what's on offer there.
braxus
08-06-2008, 06:48 AM
HI Braxus,
She's a beaut; I see the box - have you just got that gem?
Marc
No this isn't my deck. I have no need for another deck after I get my Tandberg. It is a nice looking deck though.
MacGyver
08-06-2008, 07:03 AM
i don't mean to sound like an SOB or anything, but the CT-91 is a MUCH better deck. it has a cleaner internal layout that is obviously easier to service, the same casted iron encased transformer as the one in my CT-W910R, large, heavy duty insulators (feet) "Reference Cassette Deck" in that gorgeous longhand silkscreened on the cassette door, (never did care for PIONEER U.S. late 80's decision to go with that stupid "ELITE" moniker in lieu of "Reference Series") and of course, the PIONEER "Reference Master Mechanism" used only on the CT-91 and the CT-S800...
http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/ll310/shaorin-chan/CT-911.jpg
http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/ll310/shaorin-chan/CT-913.jpg
stuwee
08-06-2008, 09:19 AM
I'll step into the SOB ring, I don't know about where ya'll live but, in Tucson folks are stealing copper wireing out of newly built homes, out of A/C, heating units of peoples roofs while they sleep, I love the Pioneer's from that era, massive amounts of copper that we'll never see the likes of again.
I'd drug test anyone coming into my home if I had any of those Bad Boys about.
MacGyver
08-06-2008, 05:12 PM
is copper REALLY that valuable?
braxus
08-06-2008, 06:08 PM
is copper REALLY that valuable?
Yah we had some Yahoos trying to steal the copper wire from power stations. They got electricuted to death doing so. People will do anything for a buck including smashing a $300 window in your car to get the 50 cents sitting in your console.
As per the 91 vs 93- I would say this:
The 91 may be parts wise a better deck in terms of build, etc. But technically I'd say no since the 93 has more tape calibration features, plus Dolby S, better meters I think, and I like the looks of it better. And no one can argue the 93 isn't a well engineered deck. One look at it will tell anyone that.
Anyway take a look at this ad for your deck:
http://cgi.ebay.de/Pioneer-CT-91-Urushi-Design-High-End-Tapedeck-wie-93_W0QQitemZ270260430446QQihZ017QQcategoryZ19639QQ ssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
Marc Hugo
08-07-2008, 02:48 AM
Hi Braxus,
I have never had a close look at these decks (above) and including the CT-91. What about the CT-95, Pioneer's last Superdeck?
I'm assuming it had the consolidated Dolby-S chip (possibly Sony origin) by that stage. It certainly received fantastic reviews from the British mags. I don't remember having seen it for sale in US mags but it may have been. It retailed for a straight UK Sterling 1000.00.
Cheers - Marc
MacGyver
08-07-2008, 02:54 PM
only halfway acceptable pic i could find...
-PIONEER CT-95 (199?)-
http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/ll310/shaorin-chan/CT-95.jpg
personally, i find it rather Fugly...
stuwee
08-07-2008, 05:00 PM
only halfway acceptable pic i could find...
-PIONEER CT-95 (199?)-
http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/ll310/shaorin-chan/CT-95.jpg
personally, i find it rather Fugly...
Oooo! stuwee likey! I'll take two please. Nice!
braxus
08-07-2008, 06:00 PM
Hi Braxus,
I have never had a close look at these decks (above) and including the CT-91. What about the CT-95, Pioneer's last Superdeck?
I'm assuming it had the consolidated Dolby-S chip (possibly Sony origin) by that stage. It certainly received fantastic reviews from the British mags. I don't remember having seen it for sale in US mags but it may have been. It retailed for a straight UK Sterling 1000.00.
Cheers - Marc
Don't know much about the 95 really. But I would bet some cost cutting may have been introduced with the 95. The 93 used the Dolby S board, while you say the 95 used chips possibly made by Sony. My 909 Sony uses chips like this and I don't fault them, but I always feel its better to do full circuit boards then cram it into an IC chip which may degrade quality.
Marc Hugo
08-08-2008, 01:34 AM
Heck, Braxus, 'aint that the truth. Once a chip or IC goes bad, the best you can hope from the dealer or techies is their best "glazed eye" look. I'm all for pure semi-conductor component boards as far as possible - at least you can find the problem and get the part of the same value. After that you can get picky about whether it's tantalum or polystyrene or bamboo (Technics!!) or some other amazing material...
Hey Stuwee!! Me too, pleeee, pleeee!!!!!!
Marc
braxus
02-24-2011, 08:19 PM
Bump to update. I guess I got one of these decks anyway.
braxus
05-11-2011, 08:00 PM
I finally got my CT-93 deck in the mail yesterday. Just waiting to open the box up to see how she is. I'll post pictures later when I finally get to look at it.
PioneerNut
05-11-2011, 08:19 PM
Congrats on your new CT-93. I hope it arrived safely. I've got a CT-91a, and CT-S800 and lets just say, if I had money spend I'd get a 93 just to round out the collection. Don't get me wrong though, I love my 91 and 800.
braxus
05-11-2011, 11:30 PM
Well I got it all unpackaged and plugged in. Seems to have survived the trip okay. Its a little dusty, but I can work on cleaning it up after. Snapped off some pics while playing a tape. First impressions- not as dynamic as my Tandberg 3014A deck, but that could be partially because the headphone output jack doesn't put out the volume my Tandberg does. Clarity isn't quite as good, but its very subtle on that one. Could be a head adjustment thing too. Everything I tried seems to work. I didn't record on the deck yet and I didn't test if Dolby works.
shadowlord
05-12-2011, 03:30 AM
very nice deck you got there.
i use an additional headphoneamp with my 959.
braxus
05-12-2011, 07:59 AM
Im finding not a lot of decks have very powerful headphone preamps. The phones I used yesterday aren't power hungry either.
braxus
05-14-2011, 09:04 PM
Played some more tapes on the 93 deck. Still doesn't quite have the kick in the dynamics my Tandberg does. Maybe that is what the current recording with Actilinear helps with. One thing I tried to figure out was how to remove the door on this deck. I would expect it would just clip off, but a tried to pull it off with no luck. I don't want to break the thing, so any ideas on this one?
braxus
05-15-2011, 12:49 PM
Any late model Pioneer owners here?
Warped Bezel
05-15-2011, 05:11 PM
Last ones I got are 1998 models and AV receiver, file type CD player. A DV-525 DVD player also but my Pioneer cassette deck collecton stops before 1995.
Savvie
05-17-2011, 05:16 AM
Played some more tapes on the 93 deck. Still doesn't quite have the kick in the dynamics my Tandberg does. Maybe that is what the current recording with Actilinear helps with. One thing I tried to figure out was how to remove the door on this deck. I would expect it would just clip off, but a tried to pull it off with no luck. I don't want to break the thing, so any ideas on this one?
Hello,
I know this deck!
The door is made out of 2 parts; metalfront and plastic-backside.
You need to push very carefully two pins a bit down (they hold both parts together on the top), they are inside in the upperpart.
Than you have the metal front loose from the plastic underneath it, however, they are still connected at the turnings below, although they now turn individually.
I do not know what was behind it, probably the wholes to adjust the heads. too long ago for me to remember......
If you want the whole door out, you first need to take the metal frontcover of its plastic behind it.
it is a really great deck, my favourite anyway.
hope this helps you?
braxus
05-19-2011, 06:33 PM
That last trick did the job. It opens now. Thing is you need to have something sitting on the door cover since it wants to spring back up.
I've listenned to more tapes on the 93. Tapes made on my Tandberg 3014A. Alignment sounds about right, yet the Pioneer deck seems less involving. Once again the punch in the dynamics isn't really there. Im wondering if the Tandberg is the only deck I have that can do this? I'd be curious to hear how a Dragon would match in that respect. The reason I sold my Aiwa XK-S9000 was because it lacked punch. Now the Pioneer is in the same boat. I guess those early 90s decks just didn't quite do it right. I'll have to keep the 93 anyway since I still need a Dolby S deck for some of my tapes. It just won't get much use now that I've heard it. The sound out of it is boring to say the least. I cannot comment on how well it produces soundstage though.
braxus
05-20-2011, 03:42 PM
Question- its been said there were one or more Pioneer decks that had a pressure pad lifter on the heads. Which deck was this? My 93 was said it may have it, but on further inspection- I don't see anything on the head which would resemble that part being on there. The only other non Nak deck I know that had this feature was the Luxman K-05, but that may not be correct either.
khongtiennang
05-20-2011, 06:56 PM
Question- its been said there were one or more Pioneer decks that had a pressure pad lifter on the heads. Which deck was this? My 93 was said it may have it, but on further inspection- I don't see anything on the head which would resemble that part being on there. The only other non Nak deck I know that had this feature was the Luxman K-05, but that may not be correct either.
Pioneer Ct-93 uses the blue spots you see on the r/p head for tape pad lifting purpose, so no tape pad lifter like one of Nakamichi.
Sony uses this method also in some models like TC-K890/990ES, TC-K222ESJ, A3ES etc.
braxus
05-20-2011, 08:21 PM
Pioneer Ct-93 uses the blue spots you see on the r/p head for tape pad lifting purpose, so no tape pad lifter like one of Nakamichi.
Sony uses this method also in some models like TC-K890/990ES, TC-K222ESJ, A3ES etc.
I really don't see how those bumps would even get close to lifting up the pad in all cases. The pad rests in behind the tape and in many cases doesn't go beyond the tape above or below. It would have to be a huge pressure pad to even work with those bumps. That said its possible it may do the job, I just don't see it working all the time.
braxus
05-20-2011, 09:16 PM
I uploaded a video on Youtube of this deck, but had to delete it due to the content advisory coming up.
khongtiennang
05-21-2011, 05:18 AM
I really don't see how those bumps would even get close to lifting up the pad in all cases. The pad rests in behind the tape and in many cases doesn't go beyond the tape above or below. It would have to be a huge pressure pad to even work with those bumps. That said its possible it may do the job, I just don't see it working all the time.
The tape pad in the cassette is wider as the tape as i see . It stands out both sides of the tape a bit and i guest these blue spots/bumps kick off the pad at the both rears just a little enough for this purpose.
scan80269
06-19-2011, 10:33 AM
Attached is an excerpt from a Pioneer brochure that talks about the "pad pressure release" feature on the CT-93 record/play head. The blue bumps are supposed to push the cassette pressure pad away from the tape, but not to the same physical degree the Naks do with their pressure pad lifters. For cassettes that have highly compressible pressure pad material I suspect Pioneer's method may be ineffective.
I am not aware of widespread use of these pad lifting bumps on heads. Only my Sony TC-KA3ES and Pioneer CT-93 have them.
BTW, I just scored a second CT-93 from eBay for under 350USD including shipping. Not bad for a Father's Day treat! *Hi5* I'll have to see what condition it arrives in, but even should it require some work I still consider it a great deal.
braxus
06-19-2011, 11:24 AM
There was another CT-93 on Ebay? Wow. You got it for a good price since I paid $800 for mine. I know Nando is looking for one of these decks, so if another one comes across somewhere- do let him know. I see one on Ebay for a good price- see:
http://cgi.ebay.com/Pioneer-Elite-CT-93-Cassette-Tape-Deck-w-Manual-CT93-/170654304075?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item27bbca074b
perry
06-19-2011, 01:05 PM
I'm bidding on that CT-93, as well...
braxus
06-19-2011, 04:44 PM
I'm bidding on that CT-93, as well...
I gave a heads up to Nando on that auction, but I didn't hear back from him if he's going for it. I wonder if he'll bid?
danno78
06-20-2011, 02:15 PM
BTW, I just scored a second CT-93 from eBay for under 350USD including shipping. Not bad for a Father's Day treat! *Hi5* I'll have to see what condition it arrives in, but even should it require some work I still consider it a great deal.
Look at this action:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=170649782924&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT
Your CT-93 it is a cheap and very nice gift.
PioneerNut
06-20-2011, 08:30 PM
Look at this action:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=170649782924&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT
Your CT-93 it is a cheap and very nice gift.
Geez that one in the link above went for $1650. I think thats double what I've ever seen before.
perry
06-21-2011, 07:20 PM
And it was pulled from auction as no longer available..sheesh!
scan80269
07-01-2011, 11:55 PM
BTW, I just scored a second CT-93 from eBay for under 350USD including shipping. Not bad for a Father's Day treat! *Hi5* I'll have to see what condition it arrives in, but even should it require some work I still consider it a great deal.
My CT-93 arrived exceptionally well packed and in virtually mint cosmetic condition, but it had two blown fuses and a dead capstan motor. Pioneer still has a replacement motor available which arrived tonight and I got the deck restored to full working order. I also replaced the idler tire since it had a dent in it for having been unused for too long. The idler arm is spring loaded and keeps the tire pressed against the motor brass pulley at all times, so prolonged non-use was bad news for the idler.
This deck now has wow & flutter better than specs, measuring around 0.03% DIN (weighted peak) and rarely peaking above 0.04%. Not bad for a belt drive mech with two belts! *Hi5*
Elite-ist
07-02-2011, 08:06 AM
My CT-93 arrived exceptionally well packed and in virtually mint cosmetic condition, but it had two blown fuses and a dead capstan motor. Pioneer still has a replacement motor available which arrived tonight and I got the deck restored to full working order. I also replaced the idler tire since it had a dent in it for having been unused for too long. The idler arm is spring loaded and keeps the tire pressed against the motor brass pulley at all times, so prolonged non-use was bad news for the idler.
This deck now has wow & flutter better than specs, measuring around 0.03% DIN (weighted peak) and rarely peaking above 0.04%. Not bad for a belt drive mech with two belts! *Hi5*
Hi scan80269,
A good addition to your collection! Any head-to-head comparisons with your other fine decks?
Nando.
Pacific Stereo
07-02-2011, 09:02 AM
Scan, did you order belts for it as well? I've got a CT-41 I'm in the middle of repairing that needs belts and Pioneer is showing one of the two capstan belts as NLA. The mechanisms are virtually the same, if not identical.
In my sample the old belts are shot, and I temporarily shoved in some generic belts. W/F went from about .03-.04% to over .14%. Yikes! Can't use the old belts, because they are on the verge of turning to goo. Fred Marrs is out of action until July 5th, I'm hoping he has something I can use.
scan80269
07-02-2011, 11:39 AM
Hi scan80269,
A good addition to your collection! Any head-to-head comparisons with your other fine decks?
Nando.
Thanks, Nando!
Yeah, I'm eager to see how this CT-93 stacks up against my modified Dragon & CR-7A, but just got the Pioneer restored late last night and still checking for more problems.
I just realized that Pioneer spared no expense in building this deck. In addition to the full copper chassis, the transformer shield, most of the regulator/transistor heatsinks and even the screws are also copper. I also found plenty of Elna Cerafine capacitors on the Dolby board, and Nichicon MUSE caps on the main board. This baby is a beauty to behold both outside and inside!
This is definitely one of my better scores. *bigthumbup*
scan80269
07-02-2011, 11:48 AM
Scan, did you order belts for it as well? I've got a CT-41 I'm in the middle of repairing that needs belts and Pioneer is showing one of the two capstan belts as NLA. The mechanisms are virtually the same, if not identical.
In my sample the old belts are shot, and I temporarily shoved in some generic belts. W/F went from about .03-.04% to over .14%. Yikes! Can't use the old belts, because they are on the verge of turning to goo. Fred Marrs is out of action until July 5th, I'm hoping he has something I can use.
I've got a CT-93 belt kit from wjoe, which has both capstan belts, though the primary belt (between motor and primary capstan) appears wider than the original running in the unit. Since all the belts in my CT-93 appear to be in decent shape I haven't used any of the belts from the kit. I only took the idler tire since the original tire caused rattling noises during FF/Rew which I could not stand.
I had ordered belts from Fred for various decks, but not Pioneer.
Do you want me to measure any of the belts in the wjoe kit?
Pacific Stereo
07-02-2011, 11:56 AM
Scan, no worries, I can try WJOE. He's terrific. I also like Fred's belts, too. I just wondered if you had gotten belts from Pioneer or not.
Watch out for the reel motor on these- they can induce some very nasty noise into PB when they start to go bad. I had to tear this one apart and service it. Now I'll have to see if this one is going to hold up or need to be changed.
BTW, everyone... hate to break it to you, but that's copper plating over steel. It's actually better than pure copper- both metals resists interference differently.
scan80269
07-02-2011, 12:02 PM
BTW, everyone... hate to break it to you, but that's copper plating over steel. It's actually better than pure copper- both metals resists interference differently.
This explains why this deck feels light compared to its looks. I suspect Nakamichi did the same for the CR-4A which also has the same copper color all over the chassis.
scan80269
07-02-2011, 12:05 PM
Watch out for the reel motor on these- they can induce some very nasty noise into PB when they start to go bad. I had to tear this one apart and service it. Now I'll have to see if this one is going to hold up or need to be changed.
I noticed there is no cap across the reel motor terminals. Would it help to have a film cap soldered across this motor? If so, what would be a good cap value to use?
scan80269
07-02-2011, 11:52 PM
There is another problem with this CT-93. When recording with Dolby NR (B/C/S), the tape sounds much more muffled than the source, the level is around 2dB lower, and the transients and attacks are messed up. This is even after having completed Auto BLE tape calibration with a good tape (Sony UX-Pro). I switched the MPX filter on during recording, and there was significant improvement. Best results were obtained with Dolby off, where the tape gets pretty close to the source. I was testing the recording feature with a PC feeding 24/96 source material to an RME Fireface 400 acting as a DAC for the CT-93.
I thought the deck can use some calibration, so I started to look at making adjustments per the service manual, but quickly realized that many of the pots on the main PCB are obstructed by the Dolby S board sitting above it, which is hard to remove as there is a long metal rod for the input level knob in the way. It's not clear to me how much disassembly is needed to support calibration, and how the unit can function after the Dolby S board and its supporting metal bracket are detached from their normal locations.
Come to think of it, my Sony TC-KA3ES also has a similar problem. Recording with Dolby C, the sound also has noticeable high-end roll off unless the MPX filter is turned on. Both CT-93 and TC-KA3ES appear to use the same Sony CX20188 IC for Dolby B/C encode/decode, so I wonder if both decks are suffering a common issue. I don't record from FM radio so the MPX filter should not be needed. In contrast, my Nak Dragon can record beautifully with Dolby C, and there is no need to mess with the MPX filter.
perry
07-03-2011, 04:25 AM
Could it be your source has too much high frequency component beyond 20kHz, and it is causing the dolby to mistrack? If it behaves fine with a 20kHz tone from your T-100, with or without MPX, then I'd suspect the source. Try recording directly from a Dragon, RCA to RCA, and see how Dolby S behaves.
scan80269
07-03-2011, 11:09 AM
The 24/96 source definitely has some energy to 40KHz and possibly beyond, as shown in the attached spectrum plot.
The Pioneer did much better recording directly from my Dragon. I first recorded the source to my Dragon, then played the tape for the CT-93 to recorded. Dolby C was used on both decks; I kept Dolby S out of the picture. The CT-93 uses a relay to switch Dolby S circuitry in and out.
So it appears you are right on, Perry. The high-frequency content of the source is inducing Dolby mistracking in the CT-93. What's interesting is how my Dragon can make a recording of this same source with Dolby C that is virtually indistinguishable from the source, but the CT-93, and to a lesser extent my Sony TC-KA3ES, gets tripped up. These decks have Dolby that are sensitive to wide-spectrum content, despite being a number of years later than the Dragon in design and Dolby IC vintage.
scan80269
07-04-2011, 11:58 AM
Some additional experimentation has shown that Dolby is indeed very sensitive to high-frequency content in the source. I used the built-in equalizer in Foobar2000 player to adjust the level at 20KHz. When a 20dB cut at 20KHz is applied to the 24/96 source material, the decks can make largely proper sounding recordings with Dolby C. At 0dB (flat), Dolby mistracking effects are clearly audible, and with a 20dB boost at 20KHz, recording with Dolby makes the tape unlistenable! All Dolby settings, B, C and S are affected, and verified across three high-end 3-head decks: Pioneer CT-93, Sony TC-KA3ES and Aiwa XK-S9000. Even the Nak Dragon is not immune, but is affected to a far less degree *bigthumbup*
This has made me rethink how 24/96 material or even CDs should be copied to cassette with Dolby. I'm going to keep 20KHz attenuated by 20dB with the Foobar2000 equalizer. The 20KHz setting appears to be a low pass, so everything beyond 20KHz gets cut too. This appears enough to keep the Dolby encoder behaving properly during recording. Another alternative of course is to switch on the MPX filter, but on some decks this seems somewhat less effective than the 20KHz cut.
I consider this a good tradeoff, since I can barely hear to 15KHz anyway, but the Dolby mistracking artifacts are WAY more audible to me.
LesX55
07-04-2011, 04:51 PM
Hi,
Would the Dolby mis-tracking also happen when recording from SACD??
I have two SACD players, and i record SACD to my Nak CR-7/4 ( without Dolby ) and have no problems
Les
scan80269
07-04-2011, 05:11 PM
Hi,
Would the Dolby mis-tracking also happen when recording from SACD??
I have two SACD players, and i record SACD to my Nak CR-7/4 ( without Dolby ) and have no problems
Les
If Dolby is not used, then there should be no audible Dolby mis-tracking artifacts.
I should mention that the audibility of the Dolby mis-tracking can be very dependent on source content, especially on how much energy exists from about 18KHz and upwards. I don't recall how high in frequency response SACD players are rated, but I can imagine recording a SACD with extreme treble using Dolby would suffer the same way as recording 24/96 material with similar treble.
perry
07-06-2011, 10:32 AM
Not only Dolby mistrack, but for non HXPro decks, self biasing occurs, especially with the high energy high frequency input, so a mix of hi & low can give audible artifacts. The Dragon (& similar) have a peak response rolloff at 23kHz, so I would assume they would be less sensitive. WHat is your impression of DOlby S and playback with Dolby B of S recorded content?
scan80269
07-06-2011, 09:32 PM
WHat is your impression of DOlby S and playback with Dolby B of S recorded content?
Well, there's dynamic range compression: softer sounds are noticeably raised in amplitude. There's some high-end loss, probably because the effects of spectral skewing and anti-saturation networks during Dolby S recording are not reversed with Dolby B playback.
The change in sound is a bit like going from FM to AM. It may be OK for listening in the car, but I wouldn't call it hi-fi.
BTW, I find Dolby C more than adequate for my needs. Dolby S can sound a bit more natural vs. Dolby C on my 3-head decks featuring B/C/S, but I have to say my Nak Dragon and CR-7A have the most transparent Dolby C implementations I have ever heard. I don't think I would pick Dolby S on my Sony/Aiwa/Pioneer decks over Dolby C on my Dragon.
perry
07-07-2011, 04:04 AM
Thanks for that info. It jives with the general consensus as I remember it, "back in the day" that S, while technically superior, was just not needed on decks that had superior execution of the bias, heads and Dolby C in the first place, hence it's omission from Tandberg, Nakamichi & Revox and others. On the best decks, the S/N only went from 80 to 84 dB, in spec, so not a lot of gain for "still another" NR standard to be dealt with. But it did work, and I always wondered how well, since hitting the Dolby C button on a Nak already gives absolute silence when playing a blank tape.
Pacific Stereo
07-07-2011, 08:21 AM
In a discussion about Type B and Type C NR in another thread, I had confused Type C and Type S when it comes to immunity to tracking errors with complex signals. I have a response from someone at Dolby Labs with institutional knowledge about that subject (yes, we've been graced by a visit from the Dolby people!) and will post it in that thread when I have some time to compose it into a post. In a nutshell though, my arguments about Type C should have been about Type S. S noise reduction offers superior noise reduction AND significant audible immunity to mistracking. From an NR perspective in comparison to Type C NR, you're right, it's not needed. But from a performance perspective, it works better.
braxus
12-12-2011, 09:18 PM
Due to budget constraints as of late and the need to fund another stereo component, Im forced to sell my CT-93 deck. I need to thin the herd, so this deck needs to go. See the classifieds section if interested. PM me for questions.
390FE
12-14-2011, 11:35 PM
Attached is an excerpt from a Pioneer brochure that talks about the "pad pressure release" feature on the CT-93 record/play head. The blue bumps are supposed to push the cassette pressure pad away from the tape, but not to the same physical degree the Naks do with their pressure pad lifters. For cassettes that have highly compressible pressure pad material I suspect Pioneer's method may be ineffective.
I am not aware of widespread use of these pad lifting bumps on heads. Only my Sony TC-KA3ES and Pioneer CT-93 have them.
BTW, I just scored a second CT-93 from eBay for under 350USD including shipping. Not bad for a Father's Day treat! *Hi5* I'll have to see what condition it arrives in, but even should it require some work I still consider it a great deal.
The Sony 909ES also has those blue pad lifters. Also the heads on the CT-93 look like the same as used on the Sony 909ES just with the black & gold label stuck on the front of the Pioneer heads.
braxus
12-15-2011, 09:30 AM
The Sony 909ES also has those blue pad lifters. Also the heads on the CT-93 look like the same as used on the Sony 909ES just with the black & gold label stuck on the front of the Pioneer heads.
Funny as I don't recall seeing them on my old 909ES, but its completely possible I may of removed those dots at the time I got the deck thinking something was stuck to the heads. Little did I know then. The A7ES Im getting off Alshalan also does have them.
390FE
12-15-2011, 07:40 PM
Here are pics I took of the heads on my Sony 909ES right after I got it.
You can see it has the blue pad lifters on the heads.
braxus
02-29-2012, 04:12 PM
Well I got the wood panels refinished. Color came out not quite as I expected, but still pretty good otherwise. Only CT-93 with this color panels for sure.
braxus
03-07-2012, 10:22 PM
Deck has been sold on Ebay for $700. It sold within 12 hours of listing it. So much for being overpriced.
Elite-ist
03-09-2012, 06:20 AM
I was confident your Pioneer CT-93 would sell, Scott. That'll free up some cash for future buys. Is that the third deck you managed to sell in a short time?
Nando.
braxus
03-09-2012, 05:55 PM
I was confident your Pioneer CT-93 would sell, Scott. That'll free up some cash for future buys. Is that the third deck you managed to sell in a short time?
Nando.
Yup. First was Aiwa XK-009, then the Tandberg 3014, and finally the CT-93. The funds for the 2nd and third sale were put towards the Paradigm speakers Im getting. I still need another $1000 or so to have them paid off.
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