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todd33rpm
07-29-2008, 08:10 AM
...for not a lot of money, at yard sales and thrift stores.

I share this in the hope that I will be among fellow travelers, and that this won't come off horribly strange.

One of the fascinating things for me is not just acquiring the soon-to-be blanks, but also checking to see what had been left there before. It's like listening to a time capsule, things that someone else held dear, and sometimes it's revealed songs I hadn't heard before, or completely forgotten. I'd hate to bulk-erase music that might have some value to me, in my anxiousness to get tapes for my own use. (I hasten to add that if it's a private correspondence, an audio letter or diary, I erase it forthwith, as the contents aren't really any of my business.)

Around 2005, I went yardsaling and purchased, for five dollars, a box with something like 100-odd tapes. A substantive number were sealed blanks, reason enough to shell out the funds, but there were also a lot of classical recordings and the like - the seller had been a music student or professor, and had amassed a wide selection of music over time, including a Tom Lehrer performance and some decent Billie Holiday transfers. The down side: a lot of the recordings were in dbx, and therefore not all that usable for me.

A couple years ago, I found a TDK MA 110 at a Goodwill, at a fire sale price. Popped it in to make sure it was in good shape, and was surprised to hear a Waterboys concert recording that appeared to be taken from a radio or TV broadcast, probably around 1993-ish. Further surprise towards the end of the tape was the band covering Prince's "Purple Rain" in an almost letter-perfect version.

(Off-topic, there was also a time where some stranger walked into the record store I was working in, dropping off a boxful of vinyl albums he'd acquired, some from other people, for a yard sale. The man, in his sixties, didn't want them and couldn't sell them them at the yard sale. So...the box came to us, to see if any of our staff wanted to add to their collections. Basically, no one else was interested, so I went through them. Found a copy of Tusk in good condition, a couple of live albums...and tucked into the gatefold of one, a pack of rolling papers, $100+ in cash and a slew of checks, all out-of-date by a good 15 years or so. Near as I could figure, whoever owned this live Kinks album was using the gatefold for something else :) and ended up tucking his lawnmowing money in there, promptly forgetting about it in the ensuing fog.)

Now to you...what were your surprising finds when you acquired a tape you were intending to erase?

Scorpion8
07-29-2008, 08:35 AM
I bought a box of 50 UDXLII-S's off a guy who was a recording engineer. He specificaly stated these were once recorded, once listened to (so very gently used). He had made custom j-cards for them, and the price was cheap. Too make a long story short, each tape was a live recording of Grateful Dead. He recorded these right off the mixer console while they were playing, and some date from the early 80's thru the late 90's. So I had an entire box of Grateful Dead bootlegs.

The dilema was ...... I can't stand Grateful Dead. Don't own any, don't want any, and had no interest in the music on these. I posted my quandry and asked for advice, and got a few offers to buy them up. Problem is, he had asked that they not be resold, but be taped over and reused. That's what I bought them for, (so I had an ethical dilema) but I felt bad erasing what could be precious recordings (at least precious to somebody else)that would be lost for all time if I did. A few rabid Dead fans assured me that everything bootleg of the Deads was already out there and well circulated amongst the faithful so the issue became resolved as a non-issue. I ended up buying a bunch more of UDXLII's from the guy (with even more dead music) and I've still got them all to this day.

Someday I'll get around to erasing them and taping new stuff, but I have a big backlog of used tape already so these are just stored.

stuwee
07-29-2008, 10:15 AM
I haven't had the honor of finding/receiving tapes other than my own treasures, I've been cajoeled into picking just one MA-XG to test record on the Nak I just got, nobody physicaly twisted my arm, I need to know for myself and, since these tapes are in the $40 a piece range NOS, give or take a couple of $'s. I just will make a sacrifice *worship* to the tape gods for now. I have to remember my ritual of recording on a "new" deck, I haven't recorded in 10+ years, sooo... I can't contribute to your thread really I just added my experience.

Craig

Web Police
07-29-2008, 10:25 AM
Most of the time when I have bought used tapes, I have transferred the music to wav files on my computer. After playing both sides I bulk erase it the tape and put it in a pile to reuse.

Unfortunatley I will probably never have the time to listen to and or even sort through the wav files to see if there is anything I like. :(

I guess it is just the feeling that I didn't throw away someone else's hard work recording the tapes in the first place. :-?

retrokeeper
07-29-2008, 10:58 AM
I pretty much bulk erase all I get my hands on,most of the music that's on them isn't of any interest to me.I'm more concerned about the condition of tape and what it may have gone thru prior to me owning it.Sometimes it's obvious,somtimes not.I always check it's physical looks(ie."how long was this sitting under the carseat with that French fry & rusty penny?)and if the pressure pad is still in it's place. Rob

close652
08-04-2008, 04:59 AM
I bought a box of 50 UDXLII-S's off a guy who was a recording engineer.
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So I had an entire box of Grateful Dead bootlegs.



It is a pity that you
a.) don't like their music :)
b.) was told that they should be taped over and reused.

Probably there are some real gems. I am not a big fan of GD, but sometimes I like to listen one or two shows. Also it has (I think) some historical and cultural significance, as they had the biggest cassette tapers' community. A couple of years ago many (like 1-200) live shows were avaiable on archive.org. They were high quality cassette-rips, many recorded with Naks from the mixer. I have not dowloaded anything, just listened some online. When I checked again this year I realised that they removed the flac and higher quality mp3s and all we have some streams or low quality mp3s only. We were told that it was the band's request.

Flyquail56
08-04-2008, 06:54 AM
I have picked up some interesting stuff at thrifts from time to time. The most recent was a Maxell XL-IIS with The Modern Mandolin Quartet and The Turtle Island String Quartet. Good stuff. Other times of course you get some real stinkers, and it's somewhat surprising how bad some of the recording quality is. Good type II tapes that must have been recorded on a boom box...

Mike

todd33rpm
08-11-2008, 06:10 AM
I have picked up some interesting stuff at thrifts from time to time. The most recent was a Maxell XL-IIS with The Modern Mandolin Quartet and The Turtle Island String Quartet. Good stuff.

Amen. Do you remember which albums? I have a fondness for the former's version of "Cool" (the Leonard Bernstein composition from West Side Story) and the latter's take on "Jaco" (a Pat Metheny song). Whoever made that tape musta been a fan of Windham Hill Records.

Other times of course you get some real stinkers, and it's somewhat surprising how bad some of the recording quality is. Good type II tapes that must have been recorded on a boom box...

...and not just a boombox, but probably likely one that wasn't actually designed to handle Cro2 in the first place. (Guilty of that exactly once myself, when I was 11 and didn't know as much about the tape types.)

Flyquail56
08-11-2008, 01:42 PM
Amen. Do you remember which albums? I have a fondness for the former's version of "Cool" (the Leonard Bernstein composition from West Side Story) and the latter's take on "Jaco" (a Pat Metheny song). Whoever made that tape musta been a fan of Windham Hill Records

At first I thought the album titles had been left off the J-card, but after doing a little research, it turns out that they are both groups' self-titled introductory albums; both from 1988.

BTW, I had the privilege of seeing Mike Marshall and Edgar Meyer perform here not too long ago. Great concert!

Mike

Mr. Lin
08-11-2008, 01:59 PM
The dilema was ...... I can't stand Grateful Dead.

Haha! Me neither! But I could just imagine your scenario happening to me and I would face the same dilemma, I'd have a hard time erasing all those shows not knowing whether there were other copies out there. In fact, if I determined they were unique I think I would have broken the original agreement and sold them to some hard-core Dead fans. I just have waaay too much experience with bootlegs of my favorite band, I wouldn't be able to erase them. That's a great story.