O-M-G!!!!!! JVC HR-S8000U S-VHS VCR!!!!!! [Archive]

MacGyver

10-25-2008, 12:00 PM

http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/ll310/shaorin-chan/JVC/HR-S8000UBRAXUS2.jpg

http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/ll310/shaorin-chan/JVC/HR-S8000URMT1-1.jpg

http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/ll310/shaorin-chan/JVC/HR-S8000UBRAXUS3.jpg

http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/ll310/shaorin-chan/JVC/HR-S8000UBRAXUS4.jpg

http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/ll310/shaorin-chan/JVC/HR-S8000UBRAXUS42.jpg

*omg**omg**omg**omg*O-M-G!!!!!! you DIDN'T, brax. no, YOU DID!!!!!! OMG, what did i ever do to deserve a friend like you?!?! i thank you so dearly man, this means so much to me, i am at a total loss of how to describe it!! BTW, are you a physical person? cause even if you aren't, I JUST GOT TO HUG YOU, MAN!!!!!! jeez, i'm speechless!!!! it just came USPS this morn, and i have yet to test it out as my mother and sister are playing video games in the system room there. one thing i CAN do, open her up, inspect the mechanics, and run a wet-type cleaner through them. stay tuned, all!!!! again, thank you so very much brax, i will never forget this, i swear it...*headtunes**headtunes**headtunes**headtunes*

close652

10-25-2008, 01:23 PM

wow! that is a good looking S-VHS!
I'm looking forward to read your impressions!

MacGyver

10-25-2008, 03:15 PM

wow! that is a good looking S-VHS!
I'm looking forward to read your impressions!

well, i've got your vote of confedance, anyway!!*thumbsup* my fifteen year old sister positively abbhors it, claiming it to look like an "Old Foghie VCR" that, and she happens to actually LIKE 80's gear, too!! well, everyone's entitled to their opinion, but i can say with an acute certainty that this is in fact WAY too much VCR for the average "Old Foghie" it took me some time to figure it out without the manual, and there is yet some things i am unsure on!! one thing i AM sure of though, is that it is the most INCREDIBLE VCR i have ever had the pleasure of owning!!!! it has these amazing ZOOM, STROBE, ART and variable PinP effects unlike anything i have ever seen before, outclassing even the PIONEER CLD-3030 LD player's digital effects!! SUPERB picture quality! it would not play correctly at first, leading me to believe that it had not been used for an extended period. still, i eventually managed to wake her up, and it is functioning perfectly!! what's more, i was fully expecting it to have faulty S-VHS playback, as my MITSUBISHI HS-U70 once did, due to a faulty cap on the JVC OEM S-VHS hybrid IC card in the video circuit. since there is only a year separating the manufacture of these two S-VHS VCRs, i was sure that the HR-S8000U employed that very same hybrid IC. still, i am unsure whether it actually DOES, but regardless, the S-VHS system in this HR-S8000U is FULLY FUNCTIONAL. a BIG sigh of relief there!! still, as it would seem from what i have read that at least most HS-U70s suffer this defect, even the JPN market ones, (a JAPANESE site is where i first found out about the problem) it makes me ponder whether those defective cards were intentionally designed by JVC for MITSUBISHI and perhaps other companies VCR's as well to fail in such a way. (corporate espionage?) anyway, just a thought. next chance i get, i'll be opening it up, top and bottom, to lubricate the mechanism, including tracks and gears. it already has a smooth as silk operation, but i have had nothing but improvements yielded by performing this on all the other components of my system. plus, when you eject the cassette (smooth as silk) the door gets caught in the OPEN position, nothing a tad of lube in the right spot shouldn't fix. a note for anyone with designs on one of these VCR's: the wood side panels are, (despite the VERY convincing veneer that suggests otherwise) actually HOLLOW PLASTIC!!!! one minor disappointment for an otherwise AMAZING VCR!! FAKE-faux wood panels or no, this beauty is HIGHLY recommended. again, thank you, braxus...

(NOTE: images of this VCR's amazing digital effects in action will be coming soon!!)

stuwee

10-25-2008, 04:24 PM

stuwee likey a lot!! I'm not into VCR's but, that's a looker for sure! Seems like X-mas comes early in OR, I may have to move *scratchchin*, and have John tape all the NASCAR races on his fancy rig for me *devil* which makes me wonder how a fine tape transfers to a DVD disc in his set-up? braxus, you're a gentleman and just a all around great dude! *Hi5**hearts*

Danger Boy

10-25-2008, 06:49 PM

That's a fine looking S-VHS VCR. I bet it weighs a ton too. *thumbsup*

not my thing... as the digital age has moved us way past video tape. but that is one of the best looking VCR's I've ever seen.

Congrats and enjoy!

braxus

10-25-2008, 07:03 PM

Thanks Stuwee and again John your welcome. Just to let you know the one you got was the original one you were looking at in that other post. I was the one who did the BIN you noticed. If you re-read my comments on that thread, you will notice I was leading up to you getting this unit. Again I don't do this often for people. All my life people were the ones treating me and giving me gifts. I just felt it was time for me to start to return the favor for all I've been given and something told me John to give these too you. Don't read anything into why you over any other person got these gifts. In my life I've had random gifts given to me as well, so it all comes around full circle eventually. And as mentioned you seemed to have needed a pick me up to make you feel better. I knew you'd appreciate these things, so go ahead and enjoy them. So yes Christmas comes early this year for you. Maybe this Christmas- if you see someone who is in need, you could do something for them. You have no idea how good that will make you feel afterwards. It can be just giving them your time, or some other need.

*omg**omg**omg**omg*O-M-G!!!!!!

Remember- God loves you. No joke.

And just to let you know I bought myself one of these decks too after I got you yours. But it may be a while before I get it here, so I'll be reading your comments on yours with interest.

Web Police

10-25-2008, 08:12 PM

I watched that auction as saw that Brax was the winner, I didn't know what to make of it so I just kept my mouth shut. :)

Nice VCR.

braxus

10-25-2008, 08:23 PM

I watched that auction as saw that Brax was the winner, I didn't know what to make of it so I just kept my mouth shut. :)

Nice VCR.

Now you know. I couldn't do that to someone by taking something they wanted themselves.

Here's the original thread if anyone wonders what we were talking about:

http://www.tapeheads.net/showthread.php?t=1449

Web Police

10-25-2008, 08:32 PM

I kind of figured you were buying it and going to sell it to John. But what you did is so much better. Good Job. *thumbsup*

braxus

10-25-2008, 09:19 PM

braxus

10-26-2008, 08:41 AM

Oh and John- if there are any features you aren't sure about- go ahead and ask. I might have an idea on that.

MacGyver

10-26-2008, 08:52 AM

When I finally get mine, I think I might get real wood panels made up for it and paint the top cover black. Im not a huge fan of the wood grain look on the top panel. Its ok for the sides, but the top I can do without.

It will be interesting to see how it compares against my Hitachi VT-S751 and my JVC HR-S9800. The 9800 is an excellent machine for picture quality as it uses digital TBC, noise reduction, and sharpenning to give the best picture I've ever seen from S-VHS and VHS.

here's an idea, get yourself an HR-S7000U. (there is a set of two on the bay this very moment) that unit is VERY close in build to the 8000U, including the exact same top panel in black. that, IMO is a better alternative to painting over a VERY RARE woodgrain VCR top bonnet. the choice is , of course yours. still, i HIGHLY recommend this course of action...

http://cgi.ebay.com/JVC-HR-S7000U-SUPER-4-HEAD-SVHS-CASSETTE-RECORDER-VCR_W0QQitemZ400003491947QQcmdZViewItem?hash=item4 00003491947&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=72%3A1205|66%3A2|65%3A12|39%3A1|240%3A13 18

braxus

10-26-2008, 09:00 AM

here's an idea, get yourself an HR-S7000U.

I just put a bid on one of them. As per the 8000 I got, Im wondering if I now will get it or not. The seller refunded my money so I could repay it back to him in a different account. But I've pretty much tapped myself out till next pay day (which is now a week away), so I wasn't able to do the new payment. I've emailed him twice since then, and not heard from him. So Im wondering if he has backed out of doing the deal for the deck. Im not worried if he has as this vcr is only a spare anyway. And his door flap on the left side was broken off. So basically I could look for another one later if I felt to do so. That or just use the 7000 deck.

MacGyver

10-26-2008, 09:13 AM

It will be interesting to see how it compares against my Hitachi VT-S751 and my JVC HR-S9800. The 9800 is an excellent machine for picture quality as it uses digital TBC, noise reduction, and sharpenning to give the best picture I've ever seen from S-VHS and VHS.

trust me brax, you are about to be VERY pleasently suprised. in one day, this has become my NUMBER ONE FAVORITE VCR, even over the Mitsu HS-U70!!!! take it from me, this is about the closest thing to a "Nakamichi VCR" as one is likely to ever find. i wish i would've taken a pic while while i had the bottom panel off last night, as i was lubricating the gear work and tape guide tracks (Which were already well lubricated) and was shocked to find that the transport mecha is DIRECT DRIVEN!! WOW!! no drive belt!! this baby has enough torque to power it's way through the most tough of tapes!!!! FAST FF/REW and a total assuredness of function unlike any other VCR i have yet experienced. i thought i knew everything about high-end VCRs, and then this sucker comes barreling out of nowhere!! again, brax, thank you so much!! this unit is in PERFECT cosmetic and functional condition, and i fixed the broken tab on the very strong remote flap. (someone must of been excessively hard on it) a TOP priority will be to get myself two NOS spares from WWW.REMOTES.COM just as soon as possible!! BTW, i have a line on the HR-S8000U service manual, the guy is saving it for me in a batch with a few others including the set of two for my PIONEER CLD-3030 LD player. the total willbe around $45.00 shipped. we should be able to manage that in a little while here.( i'm still working on tracking down the owner's manual, a toughie, to be sure) anyway, again, i thank you brax, this is the ABSOLUTE best way to enjoy the twilight years of VHS!!!!*headtunes*

braxus

10-26-2008, 09:21 AM

MacGyver

10-26-2008, 09:23 AM

I just put a bid on one of them. As per the 8000 I got, Im wondering if I now will get it or not. The seller refunded my money so I could repay it back to him in a different account. But I've pretty much tapped myself out till next pay day (which is now a week away), so I wasn't able to do the new payment. I've emailed him twice since then, and not heard from him. So Im wondering if he has backed out of doing the deal for the deck. Im not worried if he has as this vcr is only a spare anyway. And his door flap on the left side was broken off. So basically I could look for another one later if I felt to do so. That or just use the 7000 deck.

10-4. they should contain the same transport assembly anyway. i DO know that the 8000 has flying erase heads and VERY IMPRESSIVE digital FX that the 7000U might not, whilst the 7000u has a front A/V input under the left hand hatch whilst the 8000U trades that off for a PHONES and MIC input in the same location (WTF?!?!) anyway, if you can secure a set of both models, brax, then i'd imagine you'd have the dubbing pair to END THEM ALL. i look forward to a set of comparisons between the two models. one thing i can say with certainty; the quality will IMPRESS you. i guarantee it...*headtunes*

MacGyver

10-26-2008, 09:29 AM

Ok. When I get this vcr (he finally got back to me and its a done deal- just have to wait to pay for it again), I'll do a test between it and my new JVC. Have you ever seen the late 9000 series vcrs John? They may not be well built, but the picture they produce is second to none. Its the reason they still sell for $600 on Ebay today.

do you mean those D-VHS models? i had a chance to fondle a floor model at the kennewick SEARS a few years back. didn't get to see it's picture quality, but if i have to sacrifice a little of that for a VCR like this 8000U, than i completely accept that with ecstatic enthusiasm. when it comes to VCRs, I AM SATISFIED. it simply does not get any better than this for me. thank you again...

braxus

10-26-2008, 10:12 AM

do you mean those D-VHS models? i had a chance to fondle a floor model at the kennewick SEARS a few years back. didn't get to see it's picture quality, but if i have to sacrifice a little of that for a VCR like this 8000U, than i completely accept that with ecstatic enthusiasm. when it comes to VCRs, I AM SATISFIED. it simply does not get any better than this for me. thank you again...

The D-VHS used the same technology as the late 9000 series did, but they are not the same machines. Im talking about the 9500, 9600, 9800, 9900, 9911 models. The ones with the Digipure technology in them and were S-VHS-ET decks. This technology was also in the D-VHS decks, but wasn't advertised as a selling feature.

MacGyver

10-26-2008, 10:15 AM

and here is the DEMO of the DIGITAL FX i promised, using an S-VHS dub from DVD of the Anime "Hand Maid May" that i made with the Mitsu HS-U70. remember, this was state-of-the-art in 1987...

http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/ll310/shaorin-chan/JVC/JVCHR-S8000U.jpg

STILL IMAGE:

http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/ll310/shaorin-chan/JVC/HR-S8000UDIGITALFX.jpg

ZOOM-UP:

http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/ll310/shaorin-chan/JVC/HR-S8000UDIGITALFX5.jpg

MULTI-SCREEN/DIGITAL MEMORY:

http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/ll310/shaorin-chan/JVC/HR-S8000UDIGITALFX4.jpg

PICTURE in PICTURE/DIGITAL MEMORY:

http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/ll310/shaorin-chan/JVC/HR-S8000UDIGITALFX2.jpg

ART/SOLARIZATION EFFECT: (i think? i'm still a little shaky with the advanced operation of this sucker...)

http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/ll310/shaorin-chan/JVC/HR-S8000UDIGITALFX3.jpg

braxus

10-26-2008, 10:27 AM

John,

Below is a pic of my newer JVC. This might flash your memory a bit. It looks cheap, but its performance will surprise you.

MacGyver

10-26-2008, 10:39 AM

John,

Below is a pic of my newer JVC. This might flash your memory a bit. It looks cheap, but its performance will surprise you.

oh, yes, i've seen that one before. though it is not the one i saw at SEARS. this one is:

http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/ll310/shaorin-chan/JVC/HR-VFG11.jpg

MacGyver

10-26-2008, 12:42 PM

That's a fine looking S-VHS VCR. I bet it weighs a ton too. *thumbsup*

Twenty-One full pounds of good 'ole fashioned TOTL VCR lovin'!!!!*headtunes**headtunes**headtunes**headtu nes*

braxus

10-26-2008, 01:11 PM

this one is:

I know a vcr similar to this and its on my list to get. The HM-DH 30000u. Thing was worth $2500 Canadian when it first came out.

MacGyver

10-26-2008, 01:23 PM

I know this vcr and its on my list to get. The HM-DH 30000u. Thing was worth $2500 when it first came out.

WHA?!?! when i saw it at SEARS, it was in the $400/500 range!! i have NEVER known SEARS to ever carry high-end home electronics. perhaps they had several levels of models all with this same fascia and the one i saw was the base model?

MacGyver

10-26-2008, 01:29 PM

oh, sorry for the crappy pic, it was all i had left when we had a hard disk issue which wiped all the images, ETC. i had amassed within the last six/eight months!! before that unfortunate affair, i had several HUGE high-res shots of one of these series, the TOTL, if i recall the EBAY post correctly...

braxus

10-26-2008, 01:41 PM

Here's a better pic. The US says the list price was $1299, though it was much higher early in its life.

MacGyver

10-27-2008, 07:36 PM

Here's a better pic. The US says the list price was $1299, though it was much higher early in its life.

still, things sure have changed, brax. back in the day, for $1300 list, you got (usually) fine-wood veneer MDF side panels, a rugged, long longevity constuction with high structural metal content used throughout, aluminum front fascia, platinum-chrome plated buttons, padded isolator feet, and occasional extras such as the veneer on the 8000U's top bonnet. nowadays, you pay the same sum for advanced technology with exactly ZERO frills. again i thank you, Scott, for giving me the FINEST memento of those glorious days...

braxus

10-27-2008, 08:00 PM

Yes things sure have changed. I think part of the reason so many late model VHS decks are so cheap is because they didn't have any decent build parts to put into them anymore. The premium on that D-VHS deck was for the format itself, not what went into the deck. There is no better build quality in that $1300-2500 JVC deck then my $700 JVC deck. The only acception were the pro decks like the Panasonic AG-1980 and their full editting pro decks like the AG-7750 I have. I think they still used amorphous heads on the 1980 deck which at that late in the game was unheard of. So you are faced with a dilema. Get an early model deck and put up with its less then perfect picture output, or get a cheap late model deck that has the picture improvements put into it- but not built to last. I don't think they started putting Digital Noise Reduction (DNR) into most decks until the late 90s. Its a shame more decks didn't use it. It really does clean up the video. And VHS was always known for jitter problems, which is why a (Time Base Corrector) TBC is used to steady the picture.

I found this post online about VHS decks that use this late technology:

"These machines all have some degree of noise reduction, or otherwise play a tape cleanly.
These are PROSUMER or PROFESSIONAL video machines, not something found at Best Buy or Walmart.
Timebase correctors (TBCs) almost always exist in these.

Most popular and well respected machines are in bold.

These are JVC's NTSC prosumer S-VHS decks. JVC's high-end decks have CALIBRATION (finds best part of tape to play) and picture mode filters (AUTO, NORM, SHARP, EDIT). The 7000-series has 2MB TBC RAM, 9000-series has 4MB and uses the Dynamic Drum system.

JVC HR-S5000U (no TBC, older)
JVC HR-S5800U (no TBC, older)
JVC HR-S6800U (no TBC, older)
JVC HR-S7500U
JVC HR-S7600U
JVC HR-S7800U
JVC HR-S7900U
JVC HR-S9500U
JVC HR-S9600U
JVC HR-S9800U a.k.a GoVideo SDV-650 clone
JVC HR-S9900U
JVC HR-S9911U

JVC PAL decks, prosumer, same features as NTSC machines listed above.

JVC HR-S7965EK
JVC HR-S8965EK

JVC Professional NTSC S-VHS decks, continuation of the 7000 prosumer series

JVC SR-V10U
JVC SR-V101US / SR-V101U
JVC SR-W5U
JVC SR-W7U

JVC Professional PAL S-VHS decks, same as above NTSC decks

JVC SR-V10E

JVC's D-VHS decks, which has a lot of the same features as the prosumer S-VHS line, but also has an added ability to cure VHS flagging, much like the Panasonic DMR-ES10 DVD recorder does on pass-through.

HM-DH30000U
HM-DH40000U
JVC HM-DH5U

Mitsibishi D-VHS decks, which has all the TBC, DNR, Calibration, Picture Modes and 3D Y-C filters seen on the top recommended JVC S-VHS and D-VHS models

Mitsubishi HS-HD2000U DVHS

Panasonic's S-VHS professional editing decks, with full frame TBC (instead of line TBC). The Panasonic Picture Control slider on the 1970/1980 is a variable version of the JVC Picture Control selections (by default, it tends to already sharpen a little at the "normal" notch setting)

Panasonic AG-7650 & 7750
Panasonic AG-1960P (has no TBC)
Panasonic AG-1970P
Panasonic AG-1980P a.k.a. Panasonic NV-FS200 (PAL version) "

MacGyver

10-28-2008, 06:26 AM

braxus

10-28-2008, 09:17 AM

do those late models such as the one you already have, and that one you have eyes on have flying erase heads? also, i was unaware that a VCR could have amorphous heads. i thought that was an audio cassette deck only feature...

John,

I don't think they ever stopped putting flying erase heads in the upper end of the VHS decks. They are put in to decks for editting of course, so yes they would have them. My 9800 does.

As for amorphous heads- only some decks used them. My Hitachi does, and the professional Panasonics do. But in the consumer market, amorphous was dropped rather quickly in the 90s as a cost saving feature.

MacGyver

10-28-2008, 09:38 AM

i know for sure that the 8000U has FEs, i wonder if it also has amorphous heads? also, this 8000U is my very first (functional) VCR with FE heads. the MITSUBISHI HS-U70 i understand does not, despite it's near TOTL status. the only other VCR in the household with FE heads is the dead SONY SLV-R5UC i got a couple years ago at HOME VIDEO LIBRARY in portland for $75 with remote, but no manual. (i had some stuff we wanted to relieve ourselves of that i had brought up with me that i managed to sell on the same day i saw the VCR in order to to generate the needed sum for it) anyway, though i still like it's remote, i have since learned that the VCR is much more trouble than it's worth, and that i have room in my life for only one pair of VCRs; the HR-S8000, and the HS-U70. (though i find myself considering an HR-S7000U) as such, i am considering putting the R5 hulk up on the bay as a parts source.(i was weak, and completely without a high-end VCR at the time. i have since made up my mind fully that i in fact DO NOT like the late 80's/early 90's trend of featureless fold down front panel high-end VCRs.)

http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/ll310/shaorin-chan/SONY/SLV-R5UC20.jpg

http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/ll310/shaorin-chan/SONY/SLV-R5UC204.jpg

http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/ll310/shaorin-chan/SONY/RMT-V5A.jpg

braxus

10-28-2008, 09:32 PM

MacGyver

10-29-2008, 07:25 AM

John,

No JVC ever used amorphous heads from what I know. If they did, they never advertised it. So I would say no the 8000 doesn't. Again I think Panasonic and Hitachi were the only two companies that used them.

ah. that would explain why just about every VHS VCR enthusiast i have yet encountered has sworn to me by PANASONIC VCRs, usually the AG-1980, to be specific. still, as cosmetics are as important as performance to me (after all, why not have an A/V component that is pleasing to the eye even when it's not in use?) and the one consistant overriding commonality i have noticed with all MATSUSHITA brands (PANASONIC/TECHNICS/QUASAR) is the company's rather acute penchant for rather blah cosmetics. as such, i have basically sworn off their brands part and parcel...

braxus

10-29-2008, 09:14 AM

The AG 1980 is an excellent machine. Almost got one myself. Even it uses the DNR with TBC to clean up the picture. Add that with amorphous heads and you've got a nice machine.

MacGyver

10-29-2008, 09:52 AM

The AG 1980 is an excellent machine. Almost got one myself. Even it uses the DNR with TBC to clean up the picture. Add that with amorphous heads and you've got a nice machine.

heaven knows there is no small measure of copies available on the bay this very moment. UGH!! most assuredly NOT LA's cosmetic cup of tea...

http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/ll310/shaorin-chan/PANASONIC/AG-198011.jpg

http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/ll310/shaorin-chan/PANASONIC/AG-198012.jpg

and the remote? DOUBLE UGH!!!!

http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/ll310/shaorin-chan/PANASONIC/AG-1980RMT.jpg

http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/ll310/shaorin-chan/PANASONIC/AG-19808.jpg

http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/ll310/shaorin-chan/PANASONIC/AG-198014.jpg

http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/ll310/shaorin-chan/PANASONIC/AG-19809.jpg

http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/ll310/shaorin-chan/PANASONIC/AG-19807.jpg

http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/ll310/shaorin-chan/PANASONIC/AG-198016.jpg

http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/ll310/shaorin-chan/PANASONIC/AG-198017.jpg

http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/ll310/shaorin-chan/PANASONIC/AG-198010.jpg

http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/ll310/shaorin-chan/PANASONIC/AG-198018.jpg

http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/ll310/shaorin-chan/PANASONIC/AG-19802.jpg

http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/ll310/shaorin-chan/PANASONIC/AG-19803.jpg

http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/ll310/shaorin-chan/PANASONIC/AG-19801.jpg

MacGyver

11-01-2008, 02:15 PM

some shots of the JPN market HR-S8000...

http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/ll310/shaorin-chan/JVC/HR-S80001-2.jpg

http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/ll310/shaorin-chan/JVC/HR-S80002-1.jpg

http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/ll310/shaorin-chan/JVC/HR-S80003-1.jpg

braxus

11-02-2008, 12:57 PM

John,

On Ebay check out item #: 130266290694.

It is for a remote plus manual for the 8000 deck. Just thought you'd might want a spare.

MacGyver

11-02-2008, 01:33 PM

10-4, brax! just put a bid on it...*hope**hope**hope**hope*

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=130266290694&indexURL=0&photoDisplayType=2#ebayphotohosting

MacGyver

11-04-2008, 05:08 PM

i guess i didn't lose as many images when that HD failed as i thought!! here is what appears to be an industrial market variant of the HR-S8000U:

http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/ll310/shaorin-chan/JVC/BR-S3600.jpg

http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/ll310/shaorin-chan/JVC/BR-S36002.jpg

braxus

11-05-2008, 10:58 PM

Well there is a good chance I may not now get my own 8000 deck. The seller I did the auction with refunded my payment. Now his refund was denied, so he still has the money, and he hasn't answered my emails. I ended up filing a PayPal claim with him so we'll see how that goes. But I suspect this seller is committing fraud, so I don't think Im getting this deck. Apprently he did this with another auction and that buyer also has yet to hear from the guy.

MacGyver

11-06-2008, 08:19 AM

OH CRAP.*mad* i'm sorry, brax...

braxus

11-06-2008, 09:38 PM

OH CRAP.*mad* i'm sorry, brax...

Well what about that. The seller has come back online and updated me on everything. So I MIGHT be getting the unit after all. But I am not cancelling my PayPal claim until I get it. I won't fully believe the seller is on the up and up till I get the box at my friends doorstep.

braxus

11-08-2008, 03:23 PM

MacGyver

11-08-2008, 03:35 PM

Well its Saturday and the seller has yet to tell me he has mailed the VCR. So I still don't 100% believe I'll get it or not. I won't know till the claim either goes through or the seller mails the box out.

don't you just love it when shit like this happens, Scott? one of my more recent EBAY transactions had started showing signs of heading down this direction. then suddenly the seller popped out of nowhere, quite apologetic of the delay that was incurred by a hellish trip that he had just returned from. admittedly, i HAVE been rather lucky so far. still, take heart, brax, something similar may very well be taking place here.*hope**hope**hope**hope* BTW, have a look at this:

http://www.tapeheads.net/showthread.php?t=1914

braxus

11-08-2008, 03:49 PM

don't you just love it when shit like this happens, Scott? one of my more recent EBAY transactions had started showing signs of heading down this direction. then suddenly the seller popped out of nowhere, quite apologetic of the delay that was incurred by a hellish trip that he had just returned from. admittedly,

Well my seller seems to not be the best at communication. He dissapears after a few days into the emails on the transaction. My refund is denied and emailed him in regards to that. He never replied. Then I file a claim and as soon as that happens, he pops up and tells me he'll mail it Saturday, and also says the claim wasn't necessary. He asked if I could cancel the claim and I said not until I get the item on my doorstep. He understands, but he doesn't keep me updated as well as I'd hope to. And he has yet to respond to PayPal's claim. He was making me wonder if he's on the level, but at least he responded recently to all this. But I'll reserve any feedback on the auction till I either get the vcr or the claim gives me my refund.

MacGyver

11-08-2008, 04:57 PM

braxus

11-08-2008, 06:43 PM

indeed. the fact that he didn't attempt to make amends by immediately shipping it out just as soon as humanly possible and going out of his way to assure you that it was on it's way to you does indeed merit concern regarding this individual's code of conduct. nevertheless, *hope**hope**hope**hope* Brax...

Actually to be honest John- Im just hoping to get my money back. Im a bit stretched this month and really could use the funds. Plus the JVC would only be a spare deck, so frankly I don't even really need it.

MacGyver

11-08-2008, 06:49 PM

Actually to be honest John- Im just hoping to get my money back. Im a bit stretched this month and really could use the funds. Plus the JVC would only be a spare deck, so frankly I don't even really need it.

10-4, brax. i do hope some day you'll get to enjoy this magnificent A/V component. in the mean, you have my *hope**hope**hope**hope* that you get every last cent back...

braxus

11-09-2008, 02:12 PM

MacGyver

11-10-2008, 09:17 AM

Well he mailed it, so so much for the refund. I guess I'll have to live with the unit now. Darn. He still hasn't replied to the PayPal dispute, as I will not close it yet, but at least its on its way. I hope he responds because I don't want to close it early.

don't feel so bad about it, brax. it was obviously meant to be. just wait until you pull it from the box: i am confident that you will be floored by the first impression alone!! set it up and operate it for the first time, and i guarantee that you will feel an incredible sense of "Rightness" of everything about this VCR. everything about it is so finely engineered, so silky smooth in it's operation, that i am certain you will agree that it is in fact a Rolls-Royce among VHS format VCRs. not even my much-lauded MITSUBISHIs (HS-U70, HS-413UR) can come close!! i dare venture the assertion that this is the all-round best VHS format VCR ever made. be very, VERY excited, Brax...

MacGyver

11-14-2008, 09:28 AM

http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/ll310/shaorin-chan/JVC/DSCF0174.jpg

now all i have left to get is the eervice manual!!*headtunes*

braxus

03-11-2009, 03:10 PM

Well I finally got my own deck here and took it out today to have a peak at it. Not sure if my deck will need work as it wouldn't play the Hifi track on the tape I shoved into it. Didn't try another tape yet. The one small door flap is broken off, so I will need to super glue that back on. Other then that the machine seems to work. Little noisy on rewind however. John told me this deck has direct drive. Interesting.

I may paint the lid black or dark grey, and get new real wood panels made up in Rosewood to put onto the sides. At least this vcr works as my Hitachi needs repair and the service outlet won't repair it.

braxus

03-15-2009, 08:20 AM

Anyone else here big into S-VHS decks? I have about 100+ S-VHS tapes.

BlazeES

05-13-2009, 07:25 AM

I'm not huge into S-VHS anymore but I do have a library of tapes. I've got the big daddy of all the JVC pro-sumer machines, the HR-S10000U. Man, what a beast. The dude is on moth balls (large desiccant pouches to be exact) but I've been meaning to fire that one up - so I'll try and post up some pics of the monster when I get around to doing it.

Back in the day I would transfer my cassettes over to S-VHS for extended party time play mixes, for that "set it and forget it" action. High quality video decks are great for that...

JaeTee

05-13-2009, 12:23 PM

Does S-VHS benefit audio at all vs. standard HiFi VHS?

I thought the audio handling of S-VHS was basically the same as standard HiFi VHS's and that the "S" was just capable of better video picture?

BlazeES

05-13-2009, 01:04 PM

You're correct, S-VHS employs the same HiFi audio recording method but improved video resolution. All things being equal at the electronics level (one deck vs another), S-VHS offers no bump in audio performance.

DannyRominger

03-16-2011, 01:52 PM

braxus

03-16-2011, 02:08 PM

It is March 16, 2011 and there is a JVC HR-S8000U SVHS on ebay that is being offered at starting bid of $475.00 with free shipping. Is it worth it? Description says it is like new still fresh in box with remote control and owners manual. Any input would be appreciated. Thanks.

$475! Wow. That is highway robbery if the unit was used. No consumer S-VHS deck is worth that unless its brand new in box- which the one you suggest is. For both the deck I bought John in this thread, and the one I got myself- I paid $100 for each one. No more then that. That said later S-VHS decks can produce better performance- at the cost of build quality. Look out for a Panasonic AG-1980 deck. Cheap, pro quality, and top performance at a cheap price. Im not sure if the 8000 deck is worth buying since there are better options out there. Its a good deck when they were built well in the 80s, but decks improved in the 90s with tape calibration, TBC, and digital noise reduction.

Pacific Stereo

03-16-2011, 04:15 PM

I don't want to hijack this thread, but I've worked on more than a few of these. Gorgeous, gorgeous machines. I've got a really nice 790U (its little non-S, non-digital cousin) that I will be offering up here soon.

If anyone wants service on this (or any other JVC) machine, well, you know where to find me!

vinyldavid

03-16-2011, 04:35 PM

S-VHS looks really damn good.

PS-I Just got a JVC BR-S811u...needs some help....pics and info forthcoming.

Warped Bezel

03-17-2011, 07:11 AM

eBay 110662572683

Opening bid of $100 and will still be a lot cheaper even without free shipping. Says little used which might be better if true.

ALWAYS ASK QUESTIONS, as if it were your kidneys.

Always search the site (or elsewhere) also.

PLEASE REMEMBER that S-VHS requires better quality tape to make a great S-VHS recording. It does nothing to improve regular VHS playback or recording, that remains the same.

braxus

03-17-2011, 03:26 PM

It does nothing to improve regular VHS playback or recording, that remains the same.

Not entirely true. S-VHS decks tended to have better heads in some cases (like amorphous) which improve performance. Also those decks in the late years tended to have DNR and TBC which will improve VHS performance. You won't see that improvement on a plain Jane VHS deck. Though VHS has a typical resolution of 240 lines, with my JVC S-VHS deck and its DNR and TBC with sharpenning- it can improve things close to 270 or even 290 lines. They also clean up the noise and jitter which VHS is prone to have.

But this JVC 8000- its unlikely VHS will look any better on it then any other VHS deck of that day. What is good about it is the build quality, good parts, and direct drive.

DannyRominger

03-18-2011, 05:51 AM

Ok thanks for the advice. I will not bid on the 8000 that was $475 starting bid. I will agree that is way too much money even if 20+ year old deck is indeed brand new possibly not used. I see he has reduced the starting bid to $420 but buy it now is $470 close to where he had the starting bid the first time. But as for the one that is starting bid of $100 I went and placed a bid on that one. I will keep my eyes open for the Panasonic AG 1980. Found a few on ebay but some rough shape and others no remote control. No plans on buying one yet, just looking at them.

Although todays consumer SVHS decks are better, I still like the late 80's or early 90's look on these machines with all the "bells and whistles" like it is on the 8000. One thing I liked on hi-fi vcrs is the VU meter. Although it doesn't do any real measurement, it there for the looks. Don't know why but I think somewhere in the mid to late 90's they stopped putting VU meters on consumer decks especially the hi-fi standard VHS decks.

braxus

03-18-2011, 06:19 AM

Don't know why but I think somewhere in the mid to late 90's they stopped putting VU meters on consumer decks especially the hi-fi standard VHS decks.

Probaby around the same time they stopped allowing adjustable input levels via a knob or adjuster of some sort on hifi vcrs.

Warped Bezel

03-18-2011, 07:52 AM

The same secondhand shop I got the Nak 500 at yesterday has a semi-industrial looking Mitsubishi (compared to the one a friend sold without even alerting me and he never records). No idea on the condition but it's not expensive (well under $20).

His stuff comes from a local auction. Probably needs repairs.

Pacific Stereo

03-18-2011, 08:40 AM

Some of those Mitsubishis had the best picture on the planet- amazing machines. I was a warranty station for them, as well.

Warped Bezel

03-18-2011, 06:48 PM

I'll go dig it out of the electronics pile and ask about it again.

R.Daneel

03-21-2011, 10:19 AM

If you could get some new S-VHS tapes today (premium quality), what do you guys think would be a fair price for them?

Warped Bezel

03-21-2011, 10:58 AM

Is there a secret warehouse in Gdansk? *hope*

Jpass992

03-23-2011, 05:56 PM

Hey guys, I'm new here, but I got a few questions. A few months ago there was a JVC HR S6900U Super VHS VCR from 1994 that was supposedly like new in box with all the original manuals and accessories and I bought it. However, the machine has a terrible problem. Every tape that I insert into the machine regardless of VHS or Super VHS displays the dreaded white streaks problem. I opened up the machine, and cleaned it to no avail. Also, when rewinding the tape out of play mode, the machine starts to screech very loudly. Do you guys think I should get this repaired, and if so where?

I also got another JVC HR S6900U, but sadly, the eject mechanism has died on it, and it will only accept a tape by manually pushing it in and manually ejecting it.

If anyone could give me some advice, I'd be greatly appreciative.

Pacific Stereo

03-23-2011, 07:57 PM

See your PM.

Warped Bezel

03-23-2011, 08:20 PM

I'll go dig it out of the electronics pile and ask about it again.

It's a Mitsubishi HS-U70?, Hi-Fi, YES, METERS and variable levels and I will buy it next week (it's being held with the Nakamichi 500).

Something like THIS:
http://i.ebayimg.com/15/!CE,DlzwEWk~$(KGrHqUOKooE0fdTtG2TBNR)igz3G!~~_3.JP G

Jpass992

03-24-2011, 05:18 PM

braxus

03-24-2011, 08:38 PM

That SVHS VCR looks pretty huge. If I might recall, that machine is pretty old as well. However, how does Mitsubishi stand up to JVC? With JVC, I am tired of running into machines that are plagued with the white streak problem. I just recently bought a JVC HR S9400U off ebay, and on SVHS Maxell tapes, the unit has a white streak problem, which looks like white comets shooting across the screen.

Usually white streaks are caused by dropout on the tape. If not it could be a sign the heads are worn out which are causing dropouts or clogging the heads making them dirty.

Pacific Stereo

03-25-2011, 08:30 AM

The mechanism on that U-70 is an older one. While excellent, it will definitely have some problems by now. Brakes will need to be fabricated, as the brake shoe assembly was discontinued over 15 years ago. This mech will need an idler assembly and some other TLC as well. But the U-70 is a very nice deck, indeed.

Warped Bezel

03-25-2011, 11:16 AM

For $15 it will be worth seeing. My friend has a different model that worked just fine. If fact the only SVHS machines I've ever seen were his (he sold it without letting me know) and this one.

I have some belts and tires I got from Lee when he retired. Don't know which.

Jpass992

03-26-2011, 11:18 AM

Warped Bezel

03-26-2011, 04:13 PM

There iare at least TWO Panasonic AG series SVHS in the style of their broadcasting equipment at this auction...

http://cgi.ebay.com/Panasonic-AG-1980-S-VHS-SVHS-Player-Recorder-PRO-VCR-RC_W0QQitemZ250791925730

and number TWO!

http://cgi.ebay.com/Panasonic-SVHS-Video-Cassette-Player-AG-7510_W0QQitemZ250749558369

I know that many of you like the profesional Panasonics and these are those beasts!

Warped Bezel

03-30-2011, 03:44 PM

Jpass992

03-31-2011, 02:15 PM

Hey guys, I'd like some personal input here. What do you guys think of the JVC HR S8000 for converting VHS tapes over to DVD. How does it compare to the SR V101US and other Super VHS machines?

Matt Fisher

05-09-2011, 06:56 AM

I was fortunate enough to pick one of these up over the weekend. Seems to work great and does have a really nice picture for VHS. It does, however, have the dim display problem. Does anybody know which parts have to be replaced? I believe they are some caps on some power supply board.

Also, anybody have a line on a copy or scan of the manual? Thanks.

Matt

gilou8

12-03-2011, 02:28 AM

Well, starting in 1993, 1994, JVC had the white streak problem starting in their HR-S4900U/HR-S6900U units. The problem was a static discharge from the head drum because it was not grounded properly. That resulted in tons of white comets or streaks going across the screen. It happened in Super VHS and VHS. The problems went all the way up to the HR-S9400U. Even if you clean the heads, the problem is likely to come back, due to the defect in the static brush. However, there is a fix for those machines.

thanks for this post *bigthumbup*
hello; i am new here; i have a hr S8000MS (pal/secam because i live in france)
and my two units have exactly problem decribed above; my "repair man" don't know how to do it to fix it; is anybody have an idea ?

thanks a lot

Pacific Stereo

12-03-2011, 08:08 AM

Yes, the fix is a different static brush and a copper cap that goes over the center of the drum motor. I can't recall part numbers any more, but that is the way we used to solve it.

gilou8

12-04-2011, 01:01 AM

hello Pacific stereo

thanks for your answer; even if i haven't (still?) yet find service manual for my 8000MS, i found the one for 8600MS/9600MS on the net that is near of mine; and i found where is the static brush with number model; for those later who need to get information, it is on pages 72/73 and number model on page 157/158.
In this kind of model, static brush is not over the center of the drum motor, but between upper drum assy and stator because it is direct drive; so it is more difficult to repair it.
so i hope piece replacement will be accesible; of course when it will done, i give you result : i think in january, not before.

great great thanks for the information that i found here

Warped Bezel

12-04-2011, 02:12 AM

I was typing 8000U!

At any rate 101% of the listings in Google seem to be for eservice..

Fixya, retrevo etc

and the ones wih the $4.99 download

Manuals-in-PDF I think my repairman and I dealt with, at least I got it.

99% of the FREE listings require registration or just LIE.

Perhaps somebody should ask braxus as he's getting out of S for D-VHS (I bought his S-VHS cassettes, all 52).

The U model HAS to have basic features one can understand, even if it's a PAL unit and a different electrical standard. Mechanically and headwise they should be quite similar and leave you able to deduce.

braxus

05-10-2012, 07:11 PM

Pacific Stereo, I still have the 8000 vcr I bought in 2008. I have not even used it yet, but as I once said- it may need servicing. I bought a Panasonic AG 1980 and was wondering what to do with the 8000. The Panasonic is a better machine, but I don't know if its even worth keeping the JVC. What do you think?

Warped Bezel

05-11-2012, 12:09 AM

And I still gotta know is there any special knowledge about demagnetizing or cleaning any VCR when it starts eating tapes?

6800 or otherwise?

The Mitsu HS-U70 has been even tempered and happy despite all I've been told to expect.

Ghitulescu

05-11-2012, 01:30 AM

There are some answers to your demagnetising part of the question -> http://www.tapeheads.net/showthread.php?t=18496 .

I never was in need to demagnetise any of the VCRs heads I had, and I had a lot of them.

Eating tapes can have a long list of causes, including the back tension issue which is simple to notice with the cover out.

For your convenience here a translated version of a good info source
http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&ie=UTF-8&sl=de&tl=en&u=http://www.volker-schauff.de/techblog/index.php%3F/archives/40-Die-vielen-Macken-des-JVC-HR-S4700-und-seiner-baugleichen-und-bauaehnlichen-Bruedern.html&prev=_t .

I own a PAL 5800, so if you need extra info I might help you.