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10-18-2008, 09:38 AM
does anybody or has anybody tried using your Satellite dish as a FM antenna ,,thought I,d inquire before I start getting into the backside of my system,,thanks
BroonsBane
10-20-2008, 09:50 AM
I didn't realize this was possible but if it is I'd love to give it a try. It would have to be a vast improvement over my cheapie dipoles that I use now.
hifi_nut
10-20-2008, 11:27 AM
Iīm no expert, but I very much doubt it works. For starters, the wavelenghts are certainly very different, then you have the question of propagation. FM waves apparently travel horizontally ( parallel to the earths surface, to be more precise ), whereas I would think the signal from a satellite reaches the ground in a perpendicular way.
I could be wrong, though.
Jorge
niklasthedolphin
10-20-2008, 11:49 AM
does anybody or has anybody tried using your Satellite dish as a FM antenna ,,thought I,d inquire before I start getting into the backside of my system,,thanks
How to use it?
I have a double headed dish but I thought it was only for TV signal reception.
"dolph"
MacGyver
10-20-2008, 02:48 PM
Iīm no expert, but I very much doubt it works. For starters, the wavelenghts are certainly very different, then you have the question of propagation. FM waves apparently travel horizontally ( parallel to the earths surface, to be more precise ), whereas I would think the signal from a satellite reaches the ground in a perpendicular way.
I could be wrong, though.
Jorge
well, that would explain why an unpowered pack-in standard dipole like the one running of my D1S is so much more effective than a powered twin telescopic antenna/parabolic disc assembly like the one i once tried with abysmal results. to be honest, my dipole isn't really unpowered; i have an ARCHER (rat shack) signal amplifier in the line, connected to one of the receiver's two SWITCHED power taps. the dipole is connected to it, and it connected to the receiver via a large matching x-fmr and two MONSTER STANDARD coaxials cribbed from a MONSTER CATV set. all and all, EXCELLENT reception, loud and clear 80/90% of the time...
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11-29-2008, 07:54 AM
Up-date,,with normal indoor tv antennas being obsolete soon I thought that rather than pitch my indoor tv antenna in the garbage I,d hook it up to the my Sansui AU 717 tuner to see if I could increase the signal strength and while it looks kind of goofy it works extremely well signal strength has gone fro a weak 2 on the meter to 4+ ,,I doubt an expensive indoor FM antenna could do much better
niklasthedolphin
11-29-2008, 08:17 AM
Up-date,,with normal indoor tv antennas being obsolete soon I thought that rather than pitch my indoor tv antenna in the garbage I,d hook it up to the my Sansui AU 717 tuner to see if I could increase the signal strength and while it looks kind of goofy it works extremely well signal strength has gone fro a weak 2 on the meter to 4+ ,,I doubt an expensive indoor FM antenna could do much better
So you actually pull down analog FM signals with a satelite dish??
Or did I miss something?
If this is right I could be interested in knowing a little about the amount of stations from what satelite and if you can seperate the stations with your analog tuner?
Please tell about your experiences.
"dolph"
stuwee
11-29-2008, 08:29 AM
Up-date,,with normal indoor tv antennas being obsolete soon I thought that rather than pitch my indoor tv antenna in the garbage I,d hook it up to the my Sansui AU 717 tuner to see if I could increase the signal strength and while it looks kind of goofy it works extremely well signal strength has gone fro a weak 2 on the meter to 4+ ,,I doubt an expensive indoor FM antenna could do much better
*scratchchin*, I would've thought no and I actually tried it years ago when I was in NYC ( a nightmare for reception with all the iron in the pre-war buildings) my SAE tuner had a multipath meter. I hooked it up to an unused TV antenna up on the roof, it worked ok ( this was before sattilite dish) If yours works *thumbsup* I think it depends on where you're at and the tuner itself. My old tube tuner in the Pilot pulls in stations like a train with no wire at all *dunno*.
Acoustic
11-29-2008, 09:01 AM
So you actually pull down analog FM signals with a satelite dish??
Or did I miss something?
If this is right I could be interested in knowing a little about the amount of stations from what satelite and if you can seperate the stations with your analog tuner?
Please tell about your experiences.
"dolph"
dolph... I think the subject went from using a sat dish to using an indoor TV antenna (rabbit ears) for obtaining terrestrial FM signals.
Up-date,,with normal indoor tv antennas being obsolete soon I thought that rather than pitch my indoor tv antenna in the garbage I,d hook it up to the my Sansui AU 717 tuner to see if I could increase the signal strength and while it looks kind of goofy it works extremely well signal strength has gone fro a weak 2 on the meter to 4+ ,,I doubt an expensive indoor FM antenna could do much better
FF... those antennas will not be obsolete with the upcoming change to the digital signal. You'll just need a converter box between the antenna and the device to use them.
Rabbit ears are excellent for FM reception. The band is below the TV band in freq. On the box itself you will see FM listed as a usage for them. The public never got the 'connection' for using them for that source though.
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3271/3067773851_63b87d8f02_o.jpg
One of the reasons I've liked using them is that it's easier to rotate them/adjust the 'ears'/etc for optimum reception than a dipole.
graffias79
11-29-2008, 09:07 AM
Yep I also use rabbit ears for FM. It seems to work very well. As a side note, we also have rabbit ears in the bedroom hooked up to a DTV box. They are still required to receive the digital signal over the air.
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11-29-2008, 03:03 PM
dolph... I think the subject went from using a sat dish to using an indoor TV antenna (rabbit ears) for obtaining terrestrial FM signals.
FF... those antennas will not be obsolete with the upcoming change to the digital signal. You'll just need a converter box between the antenna and the device to use them.
Rabbit ears are excellent for FM reception. The band is below the TV band in freq. On the box itself you will see FM listed as a usage for them. The public never got the 'connection' for using them for that source though.
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3271/3067773851_63b87d8f02_o.jpg
One of the reasons I've liked using them is that it's easier to rotate them/adjust the 'ears'/etc for optimum reception than a dipole.I have a satelite dish ,,on the house,I only used the rabbit ears when thw dish would go out,
Acoustic
11-29-2008, 05:54 PM
I have a satelite dish ,,on the house,I only used the rabbit ears when thw dish would go out,
Great. And now your using them for FM. Those rabbit ears won't be obsolete next Feb, you'll just need a converter box to use them when the dish goes out.
niklasthedolphin
11-30-2008, 02:58 AM
To make sure people don't confuse terms..............
Here is a Satellite dish:
http://img.alibaba.com/photo/51336884/Satellite_Dish_Antenna.jpg
The Rabbit Ears are not the same.
You got me a bit confused here.
:-)
I take that nobody yet have had the luck to recieve analog FM on a satellite dish directly to the FM tuner?
"dolph"
hifi_nut
11-30-2008, 05:33 AM
Itīs not a question of luck, Dolph, itīs a matter of physics.
Let me repeat, FM waves travel parallel to the earthīs surface and have a very different wavelengt.
They are just two very different things.
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