S-VHS Tapes

[braxus]

No one seems to use vcrs anymore, but someone on here might. If interested- PM me for details.

[Warped Bezel]

PM sent.*wave*

[braxus]

PM sent back.

[vinyldavid]

I still shoot onto SVHS....whatcha got?

[Warped Bezel]

I still shoot onto SVHS....whatcha got?

See Scott, you can split.

And you, young David were going to find me some spare TDK once, if you didn't find a new use.

AD and SA in general?

Could send money to you for PP so it gets there at once.

[vinyldavid]

I just realized I have 120 new stock SVHS tapes in the basement...didn't know you were still interested in the TDK stuff....in a couple weeks I'll be free enough to pick them thru after this weekend.

[braxus]

I take it David is out? I have close to 50 used tapes. How do we want to do this?

Here is a pic of the main brands I have. Multiples of these. 95% from the 90s when S-VHS tapes were of really good quality.

[vinyldavid]

Yup, I'm out. 120ish new Maxell 120 minute SVHS tapes should be good for a few years worth of video work.

Good luck!

[braxus]

If anyone else wants in- Steve is willing to split the tapes between you guys. Let me know.

[Warped Bezel]

I wanted the others to go to David.

He makes such good use of them, no sense hogging them all.

I myself have a Panasonic minus the shoulder corder, two other VHS cams and a Sony Handycam as a camera and lots of VHS decks.

Capture would be my next goal as everything I've ever done on You Tube is Windows Movie Maker.

[Jimmy M]

No one seems to use vcrs anymore, but someone on here might. If interested- PM me for details.

Hi! Can you tell me which model / makes VCRs you use for recording audio? I tried it once and loved the sound. I have an idea it would be a good and cheap method of archiving: a local store (England) keep tapes but they never sell as you would guess.
Best wishes, Jim

[braxus]

Hi! Can you tell me which model / makes VCRs you use for recording audio? I tried it once and loved the sound. I have an idea it would be a good and cheap method of archiving: a local store (England) keep tapes but they never sell as you would guess.
Best wishes, Jim

I used to use a Hitachi VTS 751A deck, but got rid of it and now use a JVC HRS 9800. Im also moving up to a JVC HM-DT100 which requires D-VHS for digital recording, so this is why Im getting rid of most of my S-VHS tapes.

[Warped Bezel]

Jimmy, I had a certain RCA model, black, circa 1995 that loved recording audio only The criteria to do so are basically that you can either simply record audio without video (lack of video won't mute the entire recording circuit) or if you can keep recording audio without hinderance.

You're looking for one that probably inserts a blue screen when there's no video as the ones that do not mute are going to exist in Hi-Fi for the most part. Snow on Hi-Fi decks=no.

These days it seems there needs to be a video signal or the whole deck mutes. With DTV this isn't even a consideration as none of the signals on a DTV channel has definition or any defining characteristics, just a group of undistinguished digital sidebands and a data packet to tell the TV where to allocate what it receives.

Yeah, that's sexy...like a wart.*fit*

[braxus]

Ok. Warped Bezel (Steven) is claiming half of these tapes. That leaves the other half. Anyone want any dibs on these? Im only asking $20 for them plus the cost of shipping to you.

[braxus]

30 tapes went out to WB today. I still have the other half left if anyone wants to claim these. Again all Im asking is $20 plus shipping costs. I may have close to 30 of these left. I'll know exactly how many in the next while.

[Lance Lawson]

I just passed on 6 NOS 3M Broadcast Master SVHS as I don't have a SVHS machine. But those 3M's looked nice.

[braxus]

I just passed on 6 NOS 3M Broadcast Master SVHS as I don't have a SVHS machine. But those 3M's looked nice.

I would say so. I haven't seen the 3M tapes, but the tapes I have here all used top notch shells, excellent label options, a great plastic case to put them in, and top notch tape itself. In the late 90s- S-VHS tape quality went down as did its packaging. D-VHS took over from there retaining the quality of tapes and packaging that the S-VHS tapes used in the 90s. Im switching to D-VHS since thanks to copyright laws and such, they won't make a Blu Ray recorder for the North American market that will allow recording off digital cable boxes. So Im stuck using a VHS format if I want to archive anything at all.

[Warped Bezel]

He's right, great packaging!

Sounds like I'm gonna have some fun!*Hi5*

[braxus]

He's right, great packaging!


Yup. My D-VHS tapes are basically as good. I remember Fuji used packaging like this on their mid 80s high grade VHS tapes too, so that is where this started. Mostly everything else went to cheap cardboard sleeves once S-VHS took over.

[EscapeVelo]

No one seems to use vcrs anymore, but someone on here might. If interested- PM me for details.

How much for a few TDK XP, JVC XG, Panasonic XD, and Maxell XR-S SVHS tapes? 2 or 3 each.

[braxus]

How much for a few TDK XP, JVC XG, Panasonic XD, and Maxell XR-S SVHS tapes? 2 or 3 each.

Make me an offer for the amount you want. I still have to bulk erase the next batch, so I cannot guarantee what exactly what brand you'll get. PM me if interested and I'll see what I can do. Keep in mind these tapes don't come with labels, so you'll have to take care of that.

[EscapeVelo]

Make me an offer for the amount you want. I still have to bulk erase the next batch, so I cannot guarantee what exactly what brand you'll get. PM me if interested and I'll see what I can do. Keep in mind these tapes don't come with labels, so you'll have to take care of that.

I dont know.

I picked up some Maxell XL HiFi and Fuji H471S, already.

Im not up on the specifics of VHS tapes. BASF and Scotch use the Prue Chrome formulations, right? And the SVHS are like Metal cassettes. With most mainstream commercial products being like Type II psuedo chromes. Is that correct? With D-VHS tapes having even higher coercivity. SVHS tapes will work for D-VHS recordings in D-VHS decks.

Can you use SVHS tape in VHS decks to record standard VHS? And you can use some High Grade VHS tapes with SVHS ET schemes...like the TDK EHG and JVC EHG with some success (lack of degradation over time). Some VHS decks will play SVHS recordings (later models).

What say you?

Just trying to pick up some good VHS/SVHS tapes.

[braxus]

I dont know.

I picked up some Maxell XL HiFi and Fuji H471S, already.

Im not up on the specifics of VHS tapes. BASF and Scotch use the Prue Chrome formulations, right? And the SVHS are like Metal cassettes. With most mainstream commercial products being like Type II psuedo chromes. Is that correct? With D-VHS tapes having even higher coercivity. SVHS tapes will work for D-VHS recordings in D-VHS decks.

Can you use SVHS tape in VHS decks to record standard VHS? And you can use some High Grade VHS tapes with SVHS ET schemes...like the TDK EHG and JVC EHG with some success (lack of degradation over time). Some VHS decks will play SVHS recordings (later models).

What say you?

Just trying to pick up some good VHS/SVHS tapes.

S-VHS tapes are basically just a higher grade VHS tape. Same coatings, just better. May take a higher signal, but that doesn't mean they are a metal tape for example. All VHS tapes use a bit of chrome in them. D-VHS tapes are just a S-VHS tape with better standards for quality control. I've heard of people drilling holes in S-VHS tape to use in D-VHS decks. But Im staying away from that. All S-VHS and D-VHS tapes can be recorded on a regular VHS deck. And D-VHS can record S-VHS on them. Going the other direction isn't as easy.

So if still interested- make me an offer. If you want to pay like $3 a tape- Im fine with that. Just make it worth my time to do the deal. Let me know what you are looking for and how many. I'll see what I have and get back to you.

Scott

[EscapeVelo]

Maybe Ill just hold off until I can do some more research.

Thanks though.

[DuckTape]

I've heard of people drilling holes in S-VHS tape to use in D-VHS decks. But Im staying away from that. All S-VHS and D-VHS tapes can be recorded on a regular VHS deck.

this is true, I have done this with my own dvhs units cause i had the stock available. While I do see a diff in recording from DVD on SVHS vs. very good VHS on VHS, I see no diff on recording on SVHS on a DVHS unit vs DVHS tapes (specifically Sony but more importantly JVC).

Yes, you can use SVHS in DVHS units for recording, its a fairly quick mod. Honestly, at this point, as hardcore as I am about 'tape' anything, do yourself a favor, move to HDD. It's more reliable, it's easier, and i have removed all 'big' tape units from my stacks.

A VERY nice PC box is the same price as a used DVHS unit at a low price.

I have 10 Sony Industrial/Pro SVHS tapes left for those that want to go there. I will post a pic or two later if someone wants them.

ok, my 2c done.....

[braxus]

I still prefer using tape as its a removable type of media that can be packed anywhere. Also using a computer to record digital programming is not as user friendly as a vcr. Im referring to recording timer programs, etc. I also have a lot invested in the VHS format, so its a progression for me to use D-VHS instead of discs. Also those bugger of companies won't allow a Blu Ray recorder to record digital cable. The only way is through computer and Im not into hassling with that. Tape is easier.

[EscapeVelo]

Yeah, I just missed some Sony MQST 120s on the bay 10 New went for $20 shipped. Looking to pick some up.

[DuckTape]

I still prefer using tape as its a removable type of media that can be packed anywhere.

didnt say i didnt agree :P

Also using a computer to record digital programming is not as user friendly as a vcr.

with the right card, you'd be surprised whats still available/possible, but it's not aimed at the consumer. the days of 775 are gone

Also those bugger of companies won't allow a Blu Ray recorder to record digital cable. The only way is through computer and Im not into hassling with that.

Dude I am the most stubborn $%#@ out there, but at some point, it's no longer concession, but appreciation. Im just saying.... If you have a budget in mind, I can recommend a build.

Not trying to convert, JM2C

[Warped Bezel]

I live with Pentium 4 but that doesn't mean anything but it was FREE*footmouth*

[Pentium100]

Honestly, at this point, as hardcore as I am about 'tape' anything, do yourself a favor, move to HDD. It's more reliable, it's easier, and i have removed all 'big' tape units from my stacks.

A VERY nice PC box is the same price as a used DVHS unit at a low price.

I use regular VHS to record TV shows (music mostly). I tried to record them using a PC, but it was quite unreliable and inconvenient. My TV input card (analog) has a MPEG2 hardware encoder, so I wold use it, then either keep the very large file or have to reencode to divx or h264, that takes time. Also, the recording would sometimes be without sound or image or have some other problems. And when I pressed "record" it would pause for some time so I could not make clean cuts (to record without commercials) and each time I stopped/restarted it created a new file, I then had to join those file together. Oh, and sometimes the PC would crash.

In comparison, a VCR rarely has any problems and if it does, the problem can usually be detected early so I can just use my backup VCR. AFAIK, only once out of more than a hundred tapes there was a problem with recording that only showed up on playback so I lost part of the recording (the problem lasted until I pressed stop when recording - the tape was probably badly threaded, so the video was very distorted and hifi audo didn't work, but IIRC linear audio was OK).

Also, nobody knows how long can data in a hard drive last. A 20 year old video tape still plays OK though.

[DuckTape]

I dont agree with you, but I dont disagree with you. I see positives and negatives in your argument. I guess, for me at least, when 2Tb is $59 for a HIGHLY reliable wd drive, I see VHS or SVHS as superfluous.

Now, it's important to realize this is coming from someone with 9 cassette decks, and of those, 3 flagships from 3 MFRs (USDM).

I loved my tape drives; VHS, SHVS, and DVHS. But as the Oracle said, everything that has a beginning, must have an end.

The JVC, Mitsu, and Panny are gone...wanna buy some Sonys?



with all that said, as has already been pointed out ad nauseum, VHS in its most basal form is a great audio format. But for Duck, it's done.

[Warped Bezel]

And what did you want for the Sonys?

I have a excellent Mitsubishi HS-U70 and I like doing things in pairs, or one in the livingroom and one in the bedroom with a spare in the LR.

I have two SuperBetas (one does not eject though)

5 Laserdisc players

A lot of standard VHS HiFis (mostly needing belts/???) but currently running three.

Teac A-3300 and Akai GX-636 in here and Roberts 1630 in the bedroom...

Picture drawn. I would like to know though.

My goal for about 3 years has been to create quality motion video with multi-channel (surround) audio for You Tube.

[Pentium100]

I dont agree with you, but I dont disagree with you. I see positives and negatives in your argument. I guess, for me at least, when 2Tb is $59 for a HIGHLY reliable wd drive, I see VHS or SVHS as superfluous.

I use the same argument when talking about audio tape - digital is better and cheaper :) Here though, I just use VHS for convenience - if there was a device (not PC) that was about the same (or at most 2x) price as a VCR, recorded to a hard drive, but without DRM and in standard formats (h.264, DivX, MPEG2) and could be controlled like a VCR (so I could pause and resume the recording to cut out commercials) I would most likely be using it already. In my experience, a PC is too unreliable to do realtime work - that's one of the reasons why I bought a Hi-MD recorder - now I can record to digital (CD quality) on the device and later copy the recording to a PC.

And while modern hard drives are quite reliable (they still fail sometimes though, so you need backup), I do not know what would happen if I filled up a hard drive, disconnected it and stored it on a shelf for 5-10 years. One of the reasons I use LTO-2 tapes for archiving data - those should last longer on a shelf.