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Fast Forward
09-13-2008, 01:11 PM
Record clamp yes or no,,how many of you Vinyl guys use a clamp pros and cons
BroonsBane
09-13-2008, 01:37 PM
I have an older JA Mitchell clamp and I love it. It's tightened things up in the bottom end. I do notice the difference with it off/on. There are no cons with its use in my system. I suppose you can get better/newer/shiner/prettier or whatever but for me it was $50 very well spent.
niklasthedolphin
09-13-2008, 02:02 PM
My 25c will be not to put a heavy or strong load on your pinol for the sake of you bearing..............unless you know that your TT is meant for it.
So what COULD be used in stead is Revolution soft clamp:
http://www.recordclean.com.au/Images/Revolution_Soft_Clamp.jpg
And ClearAudio Outer Limit:
http://www.musicalsurroundings.com/illos/CA-accessr/OuterLimit+CenterSpdr_s.jpg
The last is bigger than the rim of the LP with a tiny bit and leveling out the LP better than any clamp.
The first makes the contact to the platter, also if your's is concav.
"dolph"
Scorpion8
09-13-2008, 02:59 PM
Have never used one with my Dual. I've always wanted to try one, especially a clamp that didn't add much weight instead of a weighted-type.
ompid
09-13-2008, 03:34 PM
Sota's I-clamp is lightweight.
MacGyver
09-13-2008, 03:39 PM
*eyepop*how about the $1200.00 "Shun-Mook" clamp that STEREOPHILE mentioned a few years back?!?!*eyepop*
hifi_nut
09-13-2008, 04:39 PM
Thereīs clamps and thereīs weights or pucks.
I use the latter to good effect on all my TTīs basically because Iīm lazy and weights are easier to use than clamps.
Fast Forward
09-13-2008, 04:46 PM
I,d prefer not to use a heavy clamp ..the TT I use is a SL1700 of 1970s vintage,,so with that in mind whats the suggestion
ompid
09-13-2008, 04:48 PM
Sota I-clamp
hifi_nut
09-13-2008, 05:27 PM
I,d prefer not to use a heavy clamp ..the TT I use is a SL1700 of 1970s vintage,,so with that in mind whats the suggestion
You got me confused.
The SL-1700 has plenty of torque and no sprung suspension, just the kind of TT for a weight / puck.
Fast Forward
09-13-2008, 06:01 PM
You got me confused.
The SL-1700 has plenty of torque and no sprung suspension, just the kind of TT for a weight / puck.thats good news I was concerned with the age
gamve
09-13-2008, 08:13 PM
With clamps weights etc you need to be mindfull of loading up the turntable bearing. You also need to watch use of these items on sprung chassis tables as the weight needs to match the suspension settings. I have played around with lots of these and the results vary by a large margin depending on type of table, type of mat, weights diameters etc. If your turntable bearing is not near perfect aviod weights or clamps of any sort as you just couple the record to a potentially noisy bearing.
I think better results are obtained by experimenting with platter mats than with clamps. I currently use a carbon graphite disc arrangement with an old shellac 78rpm under this and no clamps or weights. This seems to give the best results on my direct drive tables. I do use a puck on my thorens 150, but it's weight is used to tune the suspension of the deck rather than a coupling device.
I don't like most of the heavier type puck arrangements, sure they flatten out slightly warped records.. but I find they do the same to the mid range frequencies of the music. Experiment but keep your ears open as often what looks cool doesn't sound that way.
Cheers
G
clhboa
09-14-2008, 12:08 AM
I only use my rubber KAB clamp on slightly warped or cupped records. I don't tighten too tight or it will leave smudge marks on the record label.
Fast Forward
09-15-2008, 05:53 PM
With clamps weights etc you need to be mindfull of loading up the turntable bearing. You also need to watch use of these items on sprung chassis tables as the weight needs to match the suspension settings. I have played around with lots of these and the results vary by a large margin depending on type of table, type of mat, weights diameters etc. If your turntable bearing is not near perfect aviod weights or clamps of any sort as you just couple the record to a potentially noisy bearing.
I think better results are obtained by experimenting with platter mats than with clamps. I currently use a carbon graphite disc arrangement with an old shellac 78rpm under this and no clamps or weights. This seems to give the best results on my direct drive tables. I do use a puck on my thorens 150, but it's weight is used to tune the suspension of the deck rather than a coupling device.
I don't like most of the heavier type puck arrangements, sure they flatten out slightly warped records.. but I find they do the same to the mid range frequencies of the music. Experiment but keep your ears open as often what looks cool doesn't sound that way.
Cheers
GI tried a turntable Matt a couldn,t hear any difference I,m going to make a cork mat this weekend and see what if any difference that will make
Fairchild
09-17-2008, 06:51 AM
I use both weights and clamps depending on the table. The Thorens Stabilizer and for a clamp the Mitchell does well.
Definately the cork on the platter, I have used cork for a few years now.
Jim
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