Tandberg Serial Numbers

[mang6669]

Starting this thread to archive any and all Tandberg serial#'s
I will start with my intrest in the TCD 900 series.
TCD 910- claims of 400 units produced
TCD 911-claims of 35-40 units produced

My 2 TCD 910 Serial #'s

TPE 515 00100
TPE 515 00395

Chris

[tandberg]

So....is it a good idea to make a list ??
Type Known numbers Year introduced
TD20 4500046 1978?
TD20A 1978?
TD20A SE 1978?
TD20A SE Final Edition 47 of 60 1993?

910 TPE 515 00459 1983?
911 -----------------1983?

3001 TEL 432 04505 1979
3002------------------1979
3003------------------1979
3004 TEL 166 01200 ---1979
3005------------------1979
3006-------------------198X
3008-------------------198X
3009-------------------198X
3011-------------------1983
3012 TEL 591 00401----1983
3013
3014 TEL 652 03915 1983?
3015 554 002258 1986?
3016 1988?
3018 TA 572 01147
3025 Only appear in some papers, never seen
3026 1988 ?
3028 1988?
3031 Nr 609 1311 1988?
3032 1988?
3034 TEL 592 18720 1981 ?
3035 1988?
3036 1988?
3038 1988?
3080 1988?

4025 6360 1412 1994
4031------------1994
4035 6320 1395 1994
4036 6330 1504
4038 6340 2341
4062 6370 1026

4136
4137
4138

[jdurbin1]

You guys do realize that filling this in to cover all the Tandberg gear in use, under repair, or stored at my house would take days, right? At this point it's easily upwards of 50 pcs., probably more...

Maybe I will start keeping track, as they pass in front of me...

John

[tandberg]

If you spend the next weekend.........
No, but if we add some HIGH serialnumber we might get an idea...
3001 and 3014 was approx 4500 and 4000 pieces made, I doubt the other models made it that high....maybe our friends in Penang though, with 3034...

[Mark J]

Having a list of all the serial numbers of any gear in your house seems to be mandatory for me. So simply copy and paste the info for the Tandbergs would be easy. I just need a 910/912 or some of the separates. Hell even my reel to reel hasn't made the lists above.

[jdurbin1]

And how many pieces of equipment do you have in your house?

Doesn't help that the exterior serial label on Tandberg equipment falls off and gets lost so often. A lot of these will have to be opened to get to the internal labels.

John

[tandberg]

Unfortunately not all these are mine....... I only got around 14 pieces of 3000 series + a pair of 3005
But I know a 'few' people, and I have noted serial numbers during the years so we might find out how many was made of each type. I've tried to ask people who worked there, but it seems to be hard to remember for most 'normal' people.
What is 912 ?

Labels falling off...... *bang* -really annoying, if I find a label inside I make one extra and attach it for later use.

[Mark J]

I used to have over 100 chunks of gear, only three Tandbergs, unfortunately.

I haven't counted in a while, maybe more maybe less.

[mang6669]

You guys do realize that filling this in to cover all the Tandberg gear in use, under repair, or stored at my house would take days, right? At this point it's easily upwards of 50 pcs., probably more...

Maybe I will start keeping track, as they pass in front of me...

John

Yeah,This will be time consuming for some of us,What was I thinking?*footmouth*
Just getting the numbers off the gear in current use is a pain,not to mention the stuff that is stored away!
The Serial #'s that have fallen off is another issue.
My best guess is that I have 40 pcs,that I need to get at.
If the wife only knew! FIRST*eyepop* THEN*shoot*

[mang6669]

3000 series cassette decks:

3004 TEL 166 00352
3004 TEL 166 01054

3014 TEL 652 00130
3014 TEL 652 01335
3014 TEL 652 01502
3014 TEL 652 02198

3014A TEL 652 02746
3014A TEL 652 03467

3034 (will add serial # later)

Chris

[Mark J]

Do the serial numbers have any manufacturing information available to decipher?

[tandberg]

No... Tandberg Audio was out of business december 1999, nothing left, only exeptions might be private notes among x-employees.
Thats why serialnumbers might be interesting, to find out how large different series were. If anyone bought something 3000 serie and know the year it'll be interesting as well.

By the way I know the service department had all partnumbers stored on a computer.....wich chrashed..... *bang*

[tandberg]

3000 series cassette decks:

3004 TEL 166 00352
3004 TEL 166 01054

3014 TEL 652 00130
3014 TEL 652 01335
3014 TEL 652 01502
3014 TEL 652 02198

3014A TEL 652 02746
3014A TEL 652 03467

3034 (will add serial # later)

Chris

DOES THIS ONE : 3014A TEL 652 02746 HAVE GREEN AND YELLOW LED's ?
How about ''matte'' capstan tips ?

[mang6669]

DOES THIS ONE : 3014A TEL 652 02746 HAVE GREEN AND YELLOW LED's ?
How about ''matte'' capstan tips ?

Yes- Green,Yellow and Red for Record LED's are present.
Yes on the "matte" capstan tips as well.
Do you think an early 3014A might have the earlier 3014 Red LED's and the polished capstan tips?

Chris

[tandberg]

'Yes' about the Led's... regarding to one of my friends who had one.
Maybe not the 'all-polished' capstans, but I believe many of the shiny were replaced.

But I also know someone who bought a used ''3014 A'' wich appeared to have serialnumber below 60....so the front must have been changed.......

A another friend have a 3014 from an old employee wich had 3004 mechanics / tapetransport ( 3004 have a belt-driven counter placed to the right, 3014 have the counter at the takeup spindle. )

One of the employees, he by the way drawed 3004's front, not design, but ''technical drawing'' he told me they had problems with the earliest 3004, the capstan were glued into the flywheels, during transport they 'sagged' especially in hot areas combined with vibration during shipping.

Later it was a brass insert at the capstan end / flywheel 'joining' to prevent this problem. Matte ends vere introduced in 3014 to reduce wow.

Excuse for my....sometimes 'unsteady English' -but probably better than your Norwegian.

By the way, a interesting picture found in a archive http://img717.imageshack.us/f/protototototottotototot.jpg/
Take a look at the dustcover and the 'index' at the mastercontrol....It must be a prototype, the pic included 3003, 3002, 3001 as well, probably taken outside a audio exhibition.
After I saw this pic, I made a dustcover like that to use at my own 3004.

[mang6669]

'Yes' about the Led's... regarding to one of my friends who had one.
Maybe not the 'all-polished' capstans, but I believe many of the shiny were replaced.

But I also know someone who bought a used ''3014 A'' wich appeared to have serialnumber below 60....so the front must have been changed.......

A another friend have a 3014 from an old employee wich had 3004 mechanics / tapetransport ( 3004 have a belt-driven counter placed to the right, 3014 have the counter at the takeup spindle. )

One of the employees, he by the way drawed 3004's front, not design, but ''technical drawing'' he told me they had problems with the earliest 3004, the capstan were glued into the flywheels, during transport they 'sagged' especially in hot areas combined with vibration during shipping.

Later it was a brass insert at the capstan end / flywheel 'joining' to prevent this problem. Matte ends vere introduced in 3014 to reduce wow.

Excuse for my....sometimes 'unsteady English' -but probably better than your Norwegian.

By the way, a interesting picture found in a archive http://img717.imageshack.us/f/protototototottotototot.jpg/
Take a look at the dustcover and the 'index' at the mastercontrol....It must be a prototype, the pic included 3003, 3002, 3001 as well, probably taken outside a audio exhibition.
After I saw this pic, I made a dustcover like that to use at my own 3004.
My 3014 Serial # 00130 has an early transport similar to the 3004.
No worries your English is much better than my Norwegian-The only Norwegian I know is....TANDBERG :)
That is an interesting 3004,I have never seen that photo before.
How did you make the dust cover?
Do you have any close up pics of your dust cover?

Thanks,
Chris

[itzmike]

tech said my 3014A flywheel had seperated during shipment back to me. I sent it back and it was confirmed. He said that was an achilles heel in an otherwise excellent deck. Mike

[mang6669]

tech said my 3014A flywheel had seperated during shipment back to me. I sent it back and it was confirmed. He said that was an achilles heel in an otherwise excellent deck. Mike

Sorry to hear about your capstan problems,does your tech have a resolution?

That is a concern of mine also,I really do not like to ship these decks.
My 3004 deck survived shipment from England all was fine,maybe a year later it developed a noise (broken capstan).
The 3004 sat in my stereo room for that first year unused for the most part,maybe the broken capstan was a delayed reaction from the shipping.
As luck would have it ,I had an extra capstan on hand.

Chris

[tandberg]

Broken ?? Like....BROKEN ?? Or separated from the flywheel ?

I don't KNOW -but maybe 3004 is better to send with the back down, then you'll probably have less stress on the axles, the rather heavy flywheels is is supported axially but ''hanging on free - end'' which is how I would have said it in Norwegian....hope it's understandable. But if you have seen how things are handled in the Post it probably doesn't matter.....

Strange....but I few years ago I got two axles with matte tips, brass ring at the ends.... hmm.... after a while I realized it was 3014 axles.

If your axles is broken a good, not average, but a good mechanic can probably make new ones. Maybe a good clock-repairman or someone else wich not turn train wheels.... Aligning is probably not so easy...I guess they originally was turned and balanced after the axle was inserted.

Dustcover...I can take a picture. Clear and black acryl (Plexi(Lucite/Perspex/whatever you call it overseas)

Your 3014 Serial # 00130 -does it have that extra belt and the counter not directly on the right turntable ? And cassette feeler in the 'cassette guide' near the capstan? Early 3014 also had the motor on the 'supply' side with the red plastic-end, like 440A and 3004, and a different capstanmotor PCB.

[jdurbin1]

I've experienced that same capstan shaft breakage twice now; once on a 3014 shipped to me for repair, and again on a different 3014 I shipped to a buyer in the UK. In both cases, the rear bearing adjustment was correct or close enough that it wouldn't have allowed much end play for the wheels to move around much.

I found new parts to fix the first one, and borrowed another set from a remaining deck to fix the second one. Working now on finding good replacement shafts that I can use to salvage the two pairs of flywheels.

Member tandberg is correct that it's safer shipping these decks facing upwards so the weight rests on the rear bearing support and not perpendicular to the capstan shafts. No guarantee at all that they'll stay that way once in the hands of the shipper but you can only mark them as "This end up" so it's impossible to miss, and hope for the best.

Not sure why this wasn't a larger issue for Tandberg; their original styrofoam inner packing didn't provide any more protection against impact than the foam sheeting I've been using, and the factory cartons are oriented horizontally. Maybe the shaft metal gets more brittle with age, not sure but there is nothing more sickening than hearing the wheels clunking around inside one of these decks when you hit the power switch for the first time. *crying*

John

[Njord Noatun]

Sometimes 'unsteady English' -but probably better than your Norwegian. Jeg er ikke så helt sikker på det, da...

*wink*

[Redfox]

Ah, endelig noget man forstår ;)

Joke aside, I'd better stick to English, so we can debate ;)

So, what is the consensus on this topic? Is there going to be a se.no. list on all Tandberg, or on some Tandberg? Or maybe not?
My serial no. on the TCD-3014a is (as written in the other thread): TEL652 03915.
Can I of the previous writings asume, that it's a fairly late model?

Njördr Nóatún: It seems as if the tecnical data sheet I spoke of is similar to another you already have in your file. But eventually, I will have it scanned and send it to you so you can decide yourself.

From this serial nO. list maybe it would be possible to establish a knowledge of which machine from which ser. no. can control which remote? I think that would be great if possible.

Stereo-regards,
Jacques.

[tandberg]

Njord , hva heter 'sølvstål' på engelsk ?
Jeg lagde en ny aksel til en fyr engang, påløpende spoletallerken på sent prod. 3400X har lengre aksel og de er ikke så lette å finne.

Mulig 3mm sølvstål ville fungere som nød-capstan også.

3915 is the highest 3014(A) so far. If its got IR-board, I'll guess its for Remote 3030/4070/4070 mk II.'


Picture of homemade ''prototype-dustcover-replica''
3034 woden panels also homemade, and the famous B model.

http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/15/imgzzz0224.jpg/

[Njord Noatun]

Njord, hva heter 'sølvstål' på engelsk ? Silver steel

[tandberg]

...noen ganger er ting FOR enkelt...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Silver_steel

Might be useful as replacement capstan http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Silver_steel

If it doesn't run properly the entire capstan must be turned / grinded from a larger diametre than 3 mm.

I once used 4 mm silver steel to make a new axle for 3400X (Late serialnumbers got a longer axle at the right side. )

Many cd drives uses 3 mm 'rods' for guiding the laser, not all of them are polished though.

[jdurbin1]

Was looking at these guys:

http://www.sdp-si.com/estore/CoverPg/Shafts.htm

but haven't had a chance to really dig through the selection to see if they have what I need.

I've started writing down serials, will post some when I get a chance. It'll be a smorgasbord of 3000-series components, bunch of decks from the 300/400/3000 range, receivers etc. No revelations so far but the 3001A I just finished was TEL 432 03879, a nice clean late model device. Next one up is a couple thousand units older than that, and in need of much TLC.

John

[Njord Noatun]

Would be nice to have this info in the "cloud" somewhere: I have set up a Google Spreadsheet here (https://spreadsheets.google.com/pub?hl=en&hl=en&key=0AgqG3HxXwc17dERId1oxcEplT2xOTS0xSDNjdTNJT0E&output=html)(anybody with the link can edit) if you want to input your model and serial numbers there. Once we get enough we can sort the data by model number.

If this works out, I can also have members in my audio forum in Norway add their serial numbers, too, for a more complete list than what we can obtain from TH members alone.
*bigthumbup*

Makes sense?

[Njord Noatun]

Njördr Nóatún: It seems as if the tecnical data sheet I spoke of is similar to another you already have in your file. But eventually, I will have it scanned and send it to you so you can decide yourself. That would be great: Many of the scans go back from when consumer grade scanners were poor in resolution and costly, and to have them rescanned usually lead to improved quality.

[mang6669]

Would be nice to have this info in the "cloud" somewhere: I have set up a Google Spreadsheet here (https://spreadsheets.google.com/pub?hl=en&hl=en&key=0AgqG3HxXwc17dERId1oxcEplT2xOTS0xSDNjdTNJT0E&output=html)(anybody with the link can edit) if you want to input your model and serial numbers there. Once we get enough we can sort the data by model number.

If this works out, I can also have members in my audio forum in Norway add their serial numbers, too, for a more complete list than what we can obtain from TH members alone.
*bigthumbup*

Makes sense?

Thanks -Great Idea!*Hi5*

[mang6669]

Broken ?? Like....BROKEN ?? Or separated from the flywheel ?

I don't KNOW -but maybe 3004 is better to send with the back down, then you'll probably have less stress on the axles, the rather heavy flywheels is is supported axially but ''hanging on free - end'' which is how I would have said it in Norwegian....hope it's understandable. But if you have seen how things are handled in the Post it probably doesn't matter.....

Strange....but I few years ago I got two axles with matte tips, brass ring at the ends.... hmm.... after a while I realized it was 3014 axles.

If your axles is broken a good, not average, but a good mechanic can probably make new ones. Maybe a good clock-repairman or someone else wich not turn train wheels.... Aligning is probably not so easy...I guess they originally was turned and balanced after the axle was inserted.

Dustcover...I can take a picture. Clear and black acryl (Plexi(Lucite/Perspex/whatever you call it overseas)

Your 3014 Serial # 00130 -does it have that extra belt and the counter not directly on the right turntable ? And cassette feeler in the 'cassette guide' near the capstan? Early 3014 also had the motor on the 'supply' side with the red plastic-end, like 440A and 3004, and a different capstanmotor PCB.

Yes,It has the extra belt and the the red plastic end on the motor.
No,on the cassette feeler by the LH capstan.

Chris

[mang6669]

Njord , hva heter 'sølvstål' på engelsk ?
Jeg lagde en ny aksel til en fyr engang, påløpende spoletallerken på sent prod. 3400X har lengre aksel og de er ikke så lette å finne.

Mulig 3mm sølvstål ville fungere som nød-capstan også.

3915 is the highest 3014(A) so far. If its got IR-board, I'll guess its for Remote 3030/4070/4070 mk II.'


Picture of homemade ''prototype-dustcover-replica''
3034 woden panels also homemade, and the famous B model.

http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/15/imgzzz0224.jpg/

Nice work on the dust cover,I want one!
The wood panel looks very nice also.
Maybe I could commission you to build me a dust cover?*hope*

Chris

[Redfox]

Hi Njörðr Nóatún,
I can't edit, but feel free to add my serial no. to the list.

Stereo-cheers,
Jacques.

[Njord Noatun]

Hi Njörðr Nóatún,
I can't edit, but feel free to add my serial no. to the list.


You sure? I set it up with the intent to have everybody with the link being allowed to edit -- did you click the "Edit" link at the bottom of the page?

I will try to log out from Google and see if I can edit now.

[Njord Noatun]

Dang - I guess one needs a Google account to edit: Why do they make it so hard to collaborate?

[jdurbin1]

Setting up a google account is so simple, they probably don't see it as an obstacle plus it suits their larger objective...

I've started a list of my own, will key it into the internet sheet when it gets a bit longer.

Great idea!

John

[Redfox]

That's what I experienced too. Since I am against setting up a google account, please feel free to ad minde ;)

Stereocheers,
Jacques.

[Njord Noatun]

...please feel free to add mine... I did - thanks!

[tandberg]

I've got 3036A mkII Bought new 2000/2001 at Akers Mic.
Serial TEL 635 01035

[mang6669]

I've got 3036A mkII Bought new 2000/2001 at Akers Mic.
Serial TEL 635 01035

I had a 3036A that I bought from a stereo shop in 2002/2003 it was not working but the cosmetic condition was very nice so I bought it.
I guess they had no interest in fixing it,I paid a fair price.

I sent it to SOUNDSMITH for repairs ,if I remember correctly the cost was more than I wanted to spend.(had a lead on a 3026A, more bang for the buck)
Peter the owner of SOUND SMITH had a buyer for the 3036A so I let it go,I made a few bucks to help fund the 3026A.
Now that I think of it ,This is the only piece of Tandberg gear that I have sold!*fit*
What are the differences between the 3036A mkII and the 3036A?

Chris

[mmc350]

I have a 3004 that you can list (TEL 166 01048) that came from a shop in Tampa, FL.

It has a sticker on the back panel that reads ' m. l. smith ELECTRONICS ' out of Sarasota, FL. Phone # on the sticker is no longer any good.

Prior history of this unit is unknown. Future information on this unit is . . . it's MINE ! ! !

Jim

[tandberg]

What are the differences between the 3036A mkII and the 3036A?
Chris


mk II have a toroidal transformer, probably a newer PCB layout as well.

[Mark J]

I'll add my Tandberg S/Ns when there are others of the same models. So I'll check back.

[mang6669]

Here are some more serial numbers on my pieces:

Model 64 (quarter track)
Serial # 646537
4000X (4041X) quadraphonic
Serial # 2272621

9200XD (9241XD) Serial # 2845028
3500X (3541X) Serial # 4014728
10XD-2 Serial # missing
TD 20A (quarter track) low speed
Serial # Nr. 4500786
TD 20A (half track) high speed
Serial # TEL 295 05641

3008A Serial # TEL 548 00066
3008A Serial # TEL 548 00368
3012 (black) Serial # missing
3026A Serial # 57300 1236
3031A Serial # Nr. 609 1363

Unfortunately some of the Serial #'s are missing on the outside as well as the inside.*bigthumbdown*

Chris

[tandberg]

WHAT ??? Do you got a 4000XQ ?? I've never seen a quadrophonic....
Pictures man ! Pictures, of the tapepath shoving the heads, and the back/top with the connections PLEASE! I guess it can only playback 4 tracks ?

I've got the prototype ser.nr 2 . of the 'normal' 4000X painted black and marked NOT FOR SALE with LetraSet .

Ser.nr labels....arrrgghhhhh.... I'll mention that on 3004 the 'inside label' is located at the left chassis-side, under the black aluminum plate.

[mang6669]

WHAT ??? Do you got a 4000XQ ?? I've never seen a quadrophonic....
Pictures man ! Pictures, of the tapepath shoving the heads, and the back/top with the connections PLEASE! I guess it can only playback 4 tracks ?

I've got the prototype ser.nr 2 . of the 'normal' 4000X painted black and marked NOT FOR SALE with LetraSet .

Ser.nr labels....arrrgghhhhh.... I'll mention that on 3004 the 'inside label' is located at the left chassis-side, under the black aluminum plate.

Yes indeed it is the 4000X Quadraphonic-a surprise to me as well!
I have not looked at the 4000X since I got it over a year ago,been stashed away.
I rescued the 4000X along with the Model 64,3500X,9200XD and the 10XD-2 in one clean sweep.
There is a repair shop local to me,the eccentric owner was a Tandberg hater(to difficult to repair)!

Lucky for me-An instant R2R collection!!!*Hi5*

Pictures -I know, I'll get my a** in gear soon *hope*

[mang6669]

Here are some pics of the 4000X Quadraphonic
I do not know what happened with the pics of the heads!*bigthumbdown*
Note-4 Track play head *reelspin**reelspin*

[tandberg]

Thanx! I've seen QX in the catalogues, and servicemanual, but never 'alive'
Probably the most of them were exported.

The head picture is ok, I see it's a Nortronics head, similar to the ones used in TIR 100 / 115, and only 4 tracks in the playback head. This means you had to buy pre-recorded Quadraphonic Tapes.

(Or at least recorded at a special-recorder. In a ''Tandberg-News'' I once saw a 3300X with double set of Recording Meters/levelcontrols, build for a audio exhibition. TD20A also appeared in a brochure with 4 meters )

[mang6669]

Thanx! I've seen QX in the catalogues, and servicemanual, but never 'alive'
Probably the most of them were exported.

The head picture is ok, I see it's a Nortronics head, similar to the ones used in TIR 100 / 115, and only 4 tracks in the playback head. This means you had to buy pre-recorded Quadraphonic Tapes.

(Or at least recorded at a special-recorder. In a ''Tandberg-News'' I once saw a 3300X with double set of Recording Meters/levelcontrols, build for a audio exhibition. TD20A also appeared in a brochure with 4 meters )

Do you have a picture of the TD 20A with the 4 meters?
I heard about that one before,hope you have some pics!*reelspin**reelspin*

[mang6669]

WHAT ??? Do you got a 4000XQ ?? I've never seen a quadrophonic....
Pictures man ! Pictures, of the tapepath shoving the heads, and the back/top with the connections PLEASE! I guess it can only playback 4 tracks ?

I've got the prototype ser.nr 2 . of the 'normal' 4000X painted black and marked NOT FOR SALE with LetraSet .

Ser.nr labels....arrrgghhhhh.... I'll mention that on 3004 the 'inside label' is located at the left chassis-side, under the black aluminum plate.

Could you post some pics of the black 4000X?*bigthumbup*

[tandberg]

4000X Lab serie nr 2
Ikke salgsvare = Not for sale
http://img8.imageshack.us/f/sardin001.jpg/
http://img843.imageshack.us/i/sardin002.jpg/
Handmarked, hand drilled holes in backplate and chassis.
But the top-plate is a 'normal one' with silkrcreened text, but later brush-painted.

TD20A 4Channel
http://img832.imageshack.us/i/td20aha.jpg/

What is the number of the 4000XQ Nortronics Playbackhead ? Is it P8006K like my spares ?
Mine got molded aluminum base,might be for TIR series, 4000XQ got a blanked sheetmetal base ?

http://img825.imageshack.us/i/tandbergnr5392pnortrp80.jpg/

[mang6669]

4000X Lab serie nr 2
Ikke salgsvare = Not for sale
http://img8.imageshack.us/f/sardin001.jpg/
http://img843.imageshack.us/i/sardin002.jpg/
Handmarked, hand drilled holes in backplate and chassis.
But the top-plate is a 'normal one' with silkrcreened text, but later brush-painted.

TD20A 4Channel
http://img832.imageshack.us/i/td20aha.jpg/

What is the number of the 4000XQ Nortronics Playbackhead ? Is it P8006K like my spares ?
Mine got molded aluminum base,might be for TIR series, 4000XQ got a blanked sheetmetal base ?


http://img825.imageshack.us/i/tandbergnr5392pnortrp80.jpg/

How did you acquire the 4000X,interesting history I bet.

That TD 20A 4 channel is BAD A**!-I need one!!*reelspin**reelspin**reelspin**reelspin*
Is the TD 20A a home built piece or factory produced? Lets hear more.

The heads on the 4000X Quad:
P-8006K Play Head-stamped sheet metal base
F53-11R Record
G51-18E Erase
Can not see the number on the Bias Head

Chris

[jdurbin1]

You can have the 20A 4-channel, I am holding out for the TD50 *reelspin* *bigthumbup*

John

[tandberg]

I believe I can recall to have seen that 4-channel in a leaflet.
The picture is saved from an auction.
The 4000X is more a sad story. I called home to someone I knew from Tandberg, since his cellular/mobilephone was disconnected.
His wife answered, and when I asked for him, I could immediately hear that something had happened..... He died of cancer during a few months.

She said she wanted to 'tidy' some of his collection, the things that not were in daily use in the livingroom. So she emailed me some months later and I 'inherited' it, unfortunately.

Way to young and nice to pass away like that.

He had also inherited this and one more of that 'lab-model' from his older colleague, wich was one of the 'development-staff' (I don't know the right words) I got some service manuals as well, and a 10XD without front/covers/wooden panels. Motors running, but it does'nt work.

[jdurbin1]

Hmm. I have a 10XD that is complete but the capstan motor was dead. Maybe we can do some swapping :-)

John

[tandberg]

Unfortunately I already have a 10XD 'on the shelf' with broken capstanmotor, this is a common fault. The permanent magnet-rotor tend to crack, I've experienced other faults as well, but usually that cracking.

Have anybody tried that soundsmith-replacement ? Any other experiences with soundsmith ?

[mang6669]

I was wondering about the soundsmith 10XD motors myself,they are over $300.00 ! They better be good!
What is the track configuration on your 10XD guys?

Chris

[tandberg]

I guess 'any' good electronic engineer can design a motor control pcb wich parts cost a few dollars, and a motor some additional few dollars.

Maybe the ''right'' price should be around 50-100 $ ? Anyone dis/agree ?

Mine 10XD are 4 track. The early one have got 2216P head, like 9000 series.
The later got ferrite playbackhead.

[mang6669]

I guess 'any' good electronic engineer can design a motor control pcb wich parts cost a few dollars, and a motor some additional few dollars.

Maybe the ''right'' price should be around 50-100 $ ? Anyone dis/agree ?

Mine 10XD are 4 track. The early one have got 2216P head, like 9000 series.
The later got ferrite playbackhead.

My 10XD is the 2 track version,these do not seem to be very common in the U.S.
Nick Antonescu said the 2 track is very rare,he never saw one in all the years he worked for Tandberg.
Do you ever see any in Norway?

Chris *reelspin**reelspin*

[braxus]

Nick's a good guy. He did my 3014A deck. It seems there are very few Tandberg units out there today. That said people don't want to pay the money they command.

[mang6669]

Nick's a good guy. He did my 3014A deck. It seems there are very few Tandberg units out there today. That said people don't want to pay the money they command.

I was hoping this thread would draw more Tandberg owners out,I guess there are not to many that want to make public their Serial #'s?

[tandberg]

I really don't understand the problem with telling their ser.nr. -unless it's a stolen unit, of course......... *bigthumbdown*

It's not a intention to collect numbers for any other reason than try to figure out how many units it were produced of different types. *bigthumbup*

If you got a 3014 A, it might have ser. nr. 352 03867, I've got 3866, if you wont tell the exact number you might write 3XXX or 38XX or 386X

if you use XXX or XX it really doesn't tell much..... but if you use only one X we'll know at least within a accuracy of 10 units.

[jdurbin1]

All of my TB RTR are 1/4-track, have yet to run into a 2-track. It's a good news/bad news situation, I think... the 1/4 track often have lower # of hours as they were bought & used by consumers in the home a lot, compared to the higher speed 2-track decks that tended to be used for pro/studio etc. and can be pretty worn down. Not that all of them are like that of course, but the heads & overall mechanical condition on the 1/4 track decks I've had are usually excellent.

John

[tandberg]

Mine 10XD are 4track, the only Stereo 2track I've had was 4000X from a flea market.
In Norway Tandberg is priced high/ too high in some/several flea markets, but this 4000X I paid app. $20 for. The greatest flea-luck was a 440A for $30, serial nr. TEL556 04276

Most people probably had a concern about tape-economy and therefore choosed 4track.

--and my 3035A is TEL 612 01272

[jdurbin1]

TCD 3004

TEL 166 00218

John

http://www.tapeheads.net/picture.php?albumid=83&pictureid=1095

[tandberg]

It's SO BEAUTIFUL !!!
I've got one myself, but every time I see a 3004 (picture) I'm stunned.

I call it a jewel, or a monument over the *reelspin*Pride of Norwegian Industri*reelspin*

Does anyone know wich serie started with TEL 456 ..... ???

This is a measuring result for TEL 456 00066, it came with a 3004, but every 3004 I've seen have started with TEL 166.....

http://img21.imageshack.us/img21/3100/tcd3004.jpg

And I think the curves are 'falling off' a bit early to be a 3004.
440 have 556... I dont have 420, could it be a 420 ? 340 ?

[mang6669]

TCD 3004

TEL 166 00218

John

http://www.tapeheads.net/picture.php?albumid=83&pictureid=1095

Nice 3004,It's a beauty!*bigthumbup*
Is it yours?

[jdurbin1]

It's visiting *reelspin* *reelspin*

John

[mang6669]

It's SO BEAUTIFUL !!!
I've got one myself, but every time I see a 3004 (picture) I'm stunned.

I call it a jewel, or a monument over the *reelspin*Pride of Norwegian Industri*reelspin*

Does anyone know wich serie started with TEL 456 ..... ???

This is a measuring result for TEL 456 00066, it came with a 3004, but every 3004 I've seen have started with TEL 166.....

http://img21.imageshack.us/img21/3100/tcd3004.jpg

And I think the curves are 'falling off' a bit early to be a 3004.
440 have 556... I dont have 420, could it be a 420 ? 340 ?

Here are some more of my decks:

TCD-300 Serial # 2904690
TCD-310
TCD-310 mkII
TCD-320
TCD-330 Serial# 4178537
TCD-420 Serial# TEL 581 01264

I will fill in the other serial numbers when I can dig out the box from storage.

TEL 456 I wonder what the could be from,good question?
I guess it would not be from a TCD-420

Chris

[mang6669]

It's visiting *reelspin* *reelspin*

John

Hope you enjoy it's stay!*reelspin**reelspin*

[Redfox]

Hi all,
concerning tcd-3014a.
it would appear that during production, Tandberg chose to alter the capstans as described earlier.
Secondly there seems to be two types of keyboard-versions, that is the polished earlier one, and the matte-grey one, which is from my ser. no. the later one.
Thirdly it appears that some later ones have to use the 3000 series remote, in contrast to earlier ones, which use the rc-20t.
Fourthly, some were delivered with the wood side-panels at dat of purchase, and some not. Similar with remote.
Fifthly, the remotereciever board appears to have been installed by factory.
More?
Interesting subject, also when cuppeled to ser. no.

Cheers,
Redfox.

[mang6669]

More of my 3000 series component serial#'s:

3001 (silver) TEL 432 Nr. 00604
3001 A TEL 432 02614
3011 (silver) TEL 587 00833
3011 A TEL 587 02709
3011 A TEL 587 03608

3006 A TEL 512
3006 A TEL 512 02819

3015 A 554 002303

3018 A TA 572 01046

Only a few more to go!

[jdurbin1]

That's a fairly early 3001 tuner, means it has the bipolar front end and selectivity boards unless it was retrofitted with the later FET version parts. On the other hand, the 3006A "02819" will be the later feed-forward version. I assume the other unit is missing the label? I'm interested in these because I've been recapping a pair of them for a friend so have been busy with the schematic and parts lists lately. Have to make sure to use the correct Circuit Diagram as there are two versions and only one reflects the later version design.

Most of the rest look like "mid-production" serials although one wonders how many 3018A were built. I have one of those and a 3016A at home (also just visiting, unfortunately!), will have to check the serials.

Is your 3015A a 14-bit w/dual TDA1540, or the 16-bit version? I have yet to see the latter, but assume a single TDA1541 replaces the dual 1540's? There was a seller touting a 16-bit 3015A late last year but the interior shots were showing the same dual 14-bit DAC's as mine. I suspect he was taken in by some salesman audio-babble at the time of purchase, related to the over-sampling spec etc. or possibly the technical description of how Philips managed a 16-bit spec using 14-bit chips.

John

[mang6669]

That's a fairly early 3001 tuner, means it has the bipolar front end and selectivity boards unless it was retrofitted with the later FET version parts. On the other hand, the 3006A "02819" will be the later feed-forward version. I assume the other unit is missing the label? I'm interested in these because I've been recapping a pair of them for a friend so have been busy with the schematic and parts lists lately. Have to make sure to use the correct Circuit Diagram as there are two versions and only one reflects the later version design.

Most of the rest look like "mid-production" serials although one wonders how many 3018A were built. I have one of those and a 3016A at home (also just visiting, unfortunately!), will have to check the serials.

Is your 3015A a 14-bit w/dual TDA1540, or the 16-bit version? I have yet to see the latter, but assume a single TDA1541 replaces the dual 1540's? There was a seller touting a 16-bit 3015A late last year but the interior shots were showing the same dual 14-bit DAC's as mine. I suspect he was taken in by some salesman audio-babble at the time of purchase, related to the over-sampling spec etc. or possibly the technical description of how Philips managed a 16-bit spec using 14-bit chips.

John

Hi John, The 3001 performs very well,I have never done a head to head comparison with my 3001A.
The two units sound very similar.
Do the later FET version sound or perform better than the earlier design?

The other 3006A is missing the exterior Serial #,it should be inside.*hope*
It is set up in my system now,when I have a chance I will have to disconnect it and open it up.

As far as the 3015A goes,I believe it is a run of the mill 14-bit version( not 100% sure).

Chris

[tandberg]

Is your 3015A a 14-bit w/dual TDA1540, or the 16-bit version? I have yet to see the latter, but assume a single TDA1541 replaces the dual 1540's? .


Yes , 16 bit got a 1541.
The later 3015A have printed ''something like ''True 16 Bit bla bla bla''
on the front, but I know at least two 16 bit players with the old ''non 16 bit bla bla '' front. They probably used the old fronts that they had.
I know one who was involved in the 3015 project, he told me that Tandberg bought complete Philips cd players and tossed the cabinet. They installed the laser and pcb into the Tandberg cabinet, of course after removing the op-amps wich was replaced by the Tandberg audio-board.

I do'nt believe that they started ser. nr. again at zero when 16 bit was introduced

[Redfox]

Hi all,
I don't know if this relates to the tandberg cd-players, but some cd-players, do not have for example 20 bitt dacs, but 18 bit dacs. After the dac, the last two bit is interpreted by a circuit which demands manual adjustment.
Maybe Tandberg/Philips did something similar, or am I completely off-track?

Cheers,
Redfox.

[jdurbin1]

The story on these is that Philips was busy developing 14-bit DAC solutions because that was what had been agreed to initially. Then, fairly close to launch of CD format, the "standard" was changed to 16-bit. They came up with a way to use the already-developed and about to be mass-produced TDA-1540 14-bit DAC in pairs together with a clever analog post-filter to effectively resolve 16-bit encoded discs w/o missing the market launch for CD. So, the TDA1540 is really a bastardized solution - but a damned effective one - that was subsequently replaced by the true 16-bit DAC, the famous TDA-1541.

John

[Redfox]

Thanks for explaining.

16bitcheers,
Redfox.

[braxus]

I don't like giving out full serial numbers because of people out there that would collect them for shifty purposes. I don't risk it. Im not saying you are, but there are people out there who would like this information.

[tandberg]

Then you can 'X-out' the one, last digit.
I wonder, what does 'shifty purposes' mean ?

[jdurbin1]

shifty = nefarious, having ill intent

John

[Squank]

Now that I managed to get my hands on Tandberg gear, after spending quite a few years of my teens going back and forth on a local hifi shop drooling over a 3004 (...one day *rolleyes*...) here are the first serial numbers from my decks:
tcd 330 - 4174270
tcd 310 - 4120095
tcd 3034 - TEL 592 (Nr 01161) arrived a couple of hours ago
and I promise to post more along the way...to be continued...

[jdurbin1]

Serial from the TCD 910 that just sold on eBay.de:

TPE 515 00 429

John

[Squank]

Serial from the TCD 910 that just sold on eBay.de:

TPE 515 00 429

John

Haha, that was you that got it or you asked the seller about the serial number? Wish you the best enjoyment there can be had from the machine if indeed you are the winner!!!*bigthumbup*

[mang6669]

Serial from the TCD 910 that just sold on eBay.de:

TPE 515 00 429

John

Interesting- another TCD 910 with a serial # above 400
Could be evidence that more than 400 units were made??

Chris

[jdurbin1]

No, wasn't me... I would have to liquidate quite a bit of my current collection to cover the price of that deck not to mention making arrangements to buy it in a non-US eBay listing & get it shipped here.

I just saw the serial and realized it was > 400 so copied it to this thread for consideration.

John

[Squank]

No, wasn't me... I would have to liquidate quite a bit of my current collection to cover the price of that deck not to mention making arrangements to buy it in a non-US eBay listing & get it shipped here.

I just saw the serial and realized it was > 400 so copied it to this thread for consideration.

John

Damn! I was hoping that it went to one of us , so that we could get a post upon its condition and performance.

[jdurbin1]

More 910 serials: from the new listing on eBay, S/N 000006!

John

[mang6669]

More 910 serials: from the new listing on eBay, S/N 000006!

John

I saw that,I wonder how much it will bring?
Nice RCA jacks BTW *devil*

Chris

[braxus]

More 910 serials: from the new listing on eBay, S/N 000006!

John

Now there's a deck I'd like to have. 9 days to go. I wonder what the final sell price will be?

[jdurbin1]

Yeah, I saw the rear panel pics after I posted. To call that ghetto would be an insult to ghetto inhabitants everywhere.

Probably easily remedied with a real RCA jack installation, though.

John

[braxus]

Yeah, I saw the rear panel pics after I posted. To call that ghetto would be an insult to ghetto inhabitants everywhere.

Probably easily remedied with a rear RCA jack installation, though.

John

Wow. I didn't look at that. I bet all you'd need to do is remove the wires and the piece holding the RCA connectors and its close to normal again.

[Redfox]

It certainly looks a mess on the rear, but still a really top deck. I for sure wouldn't mind having it... ;)

wishfull cheers,
Jacques *reelspin*

[jdurbin1]

Some more serials from recent listings on eBay. I need to add the ones from my bench list, but here's a few for now:

3014, ser no. TEL 652 00542
3014, ser no. TEL 652 00949
3014, ser no. TEL 652 00547 ? might have been 00542, 00347, etc. but an early one for sure.

John

[tandberg]

I spoke to another guy, he say he bought a 3004 from the factory in the 80's.
He say his 3004 are serialnumber 1253

[bob955i]

2969848 on my TCD-310.

[IsakAlexander]

TEL 591 00056 is it belonging to a cassette deck? I got this label and it fell out from the 3012. Where did they usually stick the serialnumbers?

[tandberg]

TEL 591 are a 3012.
Normally a sticker on the back aluminumprofile, under.
Normally one sticker inside on the chassis.
And, normally, the glue dries out...............

See the second post in this tread.
Example : 652 are always a 3014 (A)

[IsakAlexander]

So there were 401, 3012´s ever made? How many in the titan finish?

[tandberg]

So there were 401, 3012´s ever made? How many in the titan finish?


401 ??? Why do you think so ??
I don't know how many grey, but not many.
Both black and white when the model were introduced.

[IsakAlexander]

Just guessing from looking at your posted serial number:
3012 TEL 591 00401----1983

[tandberg]

No...all these number are KNOWN numbers, so the highest number you see in the list is just to confirm known units. For example I have a late 3014A, serial 03866 But 03915 is the latest ''ever seen'' the year describes when the type was introduced.

See top of my list :

Type Known numbers Year introduced

Latest ''News'' : TCD 911 sold on Ebay now had number 00070

[mang6669]

No...all these number are KNOWN numbers, so the highest number you see in the list is just to confirm known units. For example I have a late 3014A, serial 03866 But 03915 is the latest ''ever seen'' the year describes when the type was introduced.

See top of my list :

Type Known numbers Year introduced

Latest ''News'' : TCD 911 sold on Ebay now had number 00070

TPE 534 00070 *bigthumbup*

[Patrik]

TPE 534 00070 *bigthumbup*

Congratulations!

[mang6669]

Congratulations!

Thanks!- That one was on my bucket list for a very long time *Hi5*

[MAG Reel To Reel]

Starting this thread to archive any and all Tandberg serial#'s
I will start with my intrest in the TCD 900 series.
TCD 910- claims of 400 units produced
TCD 911-claims of 35-40 units produced

My 2 TCD 910 Serial #'s

TPE 515 00100
TPE 515 00395

Chris

Chris,

Fact:

TPE 515 00001 that was the beggining till arround 00500.
TPE 534 00001 that was the beggining till arround 00105 i have documents for that.

Thats the true, lets find them.

I have TCD 910 0000x NOS
And TCD 911 0000x NOS
And 3014A 38xxx NOS
TD 20A SE, and one studio version 19/38 cm/s
And some that was used

[mang6669]

Chris,

Fact:

TPE 515 00001 that was the beggining till arround 00500.
TPE 534 00001 that was the beggining till arround 00105 i have documents for that.

Thats the true, lets find them.

I have TCD 910 0000x NOS
And TCD 911 0000x NOS
And 3014A 38xxx NOS
TD 20A SE, and one studio version 19/38 cm/s
And some that was used

Thanks for the info Mark *bigthumbup*
Between the TCD 910/911 over 600 units
Where are they all?,Still in use in a working environment-possibly.
Could you upload the documents you have on the production?

Those are some really nice NOS pieces you have there*drool*

Chris